Sent: 02/21/2006
From: "Pat [MSFT]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:You can run Sharepoint in a VS environment, but you can scale a lot more by
not. Depending on what you intend to do, running Sharepoint in the host you
can run hundreds or 1000"s of portal sites on a single machine with a high
degree of isolation w/out taking the virtualization hit.
Exchange can be run in a Virtual environment but it really depends on the
load that you will be running - i.e. how many users you will have.
Pat
"Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
> Blackberry.
> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we also have
> a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm also
> thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual environment?
> If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to install this?
> When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ad
>
Sent: 02/21/2006
From: "kj" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:I too believe that is correct. Clustered E2K3SP2 servers are still not
supported, but seem to work just fine in R2. ;-)
--
/kj
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I think I saw a recent announcement that Exchange 2003 SP2 is fully
> supported under Virtual Server R2 (because a lot of the testing of SP2 was
> actually done in a virtual environment).
>
> Andrew Dugdell wrote:
>> Hi Ad,
>>
>> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
>> workloads running happily inside VMs.
>> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
>> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>>
>> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
>> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
>> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
>> VM guest: KB 897614
>> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
>> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a
>> host: KB 867572
>> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
>> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>>
>> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
>> but your post says Sharepoint.
>> I don't have any articles on official support references for
>> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>>
>> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
>> software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
>> virtualization CALs
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Clip ----
>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>> Blackberry.
>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm
>>> also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ad
>
>
Sent: 02/22/2006
From: "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Hi Andrew (and others)
We are a small company with about 50 users (40 on Exchange). I'm thinking
of a dual Xeon 3.0 GHz with minimum 4 GB memory and lots of diskspace. The
VMs will be installed on the RAID 5 partition. Because we're small the
Sharepoint will just be the services and not the portal server, it will also
just be used internally (one single site).
I know about the R2 enterprise deal, but I want the initial costs to be as
low as possible. The server to be replaced already has an OS (non OEM), so
we only need one for Exchange and BES. Sharepoint will maybe be for later
this year or even next year.
Do you (or anyone else) have any tips on how to install and tweak the VMs?
Ad
Andrew Dugdell wrote:
Show quoted text
> Hi Ad,
>
> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
> workloads running happily inside VMs.
> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>
> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
> VM guest: KB 897614
> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a
> host: KB 867572
> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>
> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
> but your post says Sharepoint.
> I don't have any articles on official support references for
> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>
> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
> software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
> virtualization CALs
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> ---- Original Clip ----
> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>> Blackberry.
>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm
>> also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ad
Sent: 02/22/2006
From: "Andrew Dugdell" <andrew @virtualserver.tv>
Message:Hi Ad,
Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these workloads
running happily inside VMs.
If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
probably have no issues for your scenario.
If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft Product
Support, check out the following KB articles.
a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a VM
guest: KB 897614
a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a host:
KB 867572
a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft hardware
virtualization software : KB 897615
Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time, but your
post says Sharepoint.
I don't have any articles on official support references for BlackBerry, but
again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
virtualization CALs
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
cheers
---- Original Clip ----
"Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
> Blackberry.
> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we also have
> a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm also
> thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual environment?
> If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to install this?
> When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ad
>
Sent: 02/22/2006
From: "Pat [MSFT]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Given the company size, have you considered Small Business Server? That
would be the cheapest way to obtain all of the technology - and would give
you a single image install for the box.
Pat
"Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> Hi Andrew (and others)
>
> We are a small company with about 50 users (40 on Exchange). I'm thinking
> of a dual Xeon 3.0 GHz with minimum 4 GB memory and lots of diskspace.
> The VMs will be installed on the RAID 5 partition. Because we're small
> the Sharepoint will just be the services and not the portal server, it
> will also just be used internally (one single site).
> I know about the R2 enterprise deal, but I want the initial costs to be as
> low as possible. The server to be replaced already has an OS (non OEM),
> so we only need one for Exchange and BES. Sharepoint will maybe be for
> later this year or even next year.
> Do you (or anyone else) have any tips on how to install and tweak the VMs?
>
> Ad
>
> Andrew Dugdell wrote:
>> Hi Ad,
>>
>> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
>> workloads running happily inside VMs.
>> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
>> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>>
>> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
>> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
>> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
>> VM guest: KB 897614
>> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
>> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a
>> host: KB 867572
>> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
>> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>>
>> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
>> but your post says Sharepoint.
>> I don't have any articles on official support references for
>> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>>
>> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
>> software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
>> virtualization CALs
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Clip ----
>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>> Blackberry.
>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm
>>> also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ad
>
>
Sent: 02/22/2006
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message: Hi Andrew,
I think I saw a recent announcement that Exchange 2003 SP2 is fully
supported under Virtual Server R2 (because a lot of the testing of SP2 was
actually done in a virtual environment).
Andrew Dugdell wrote:
Show quoted text
> Hi Ad,
>
> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
> workloads running happily inside VMs.
> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>
> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
> VM guest: KB 897614
> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a
> host: KB 867572
> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>
> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
> but your post says Sharepoint.
> I don't have any articles on official support references for
> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>
> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
> software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
> virtualization CALs
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> ---- Original Clip ----
> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>> Blackberry.
>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm
>> also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ad
Sent: 02/22/2006
From: "Andrew Dugdell" <andrew @virtualserver.tv>
Message: Gentlemen, Exchange sure is supported! See all the wonderful details in
the KB below:
...and might I add works Beautifully!
---- Original Clip ---
"kj" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
>Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>(http://support.microsoft.com/?id=320220)
>I too believe that is correct. Clustered E2K3SP2 servers are still not
>supported, but seem to work just fine in R2. ;-)
>
> --
> /kj
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> I think I saw a recent announcement that Exchange 2003 SP2 is fully
>> supported under Virtual Server R2 (because a lot of the testing of SP2
>> was actually done in a virtual environment).
>>
>> Andrew Dugdell wrote:
>>> Hi Ad,
>>>
>>> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
>>> workloads running happily inside VMs.
>>> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
>>> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>>>
>>> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
>>> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
>>> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
>>> VM guest: KB 897614
>>> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
>>> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>>> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a
>>> host: KB 867572
>>> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
>>> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>>>
>>> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
>>> but your post says Sharepoint.
>>> I don't have any articles on official support references for
>>> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>>>
>>> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
>>> software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
>>> virtualization CALs
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Original Clip ----
>>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>>> Blackberry.
>>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm
>>>> also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Ad
>>
>>
>
>
Sent: 02/23/2006
From: "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:I have considered this once (with our first server), but decided not to go
for this. This was in the time SBS had a 50 user limit (now it's 75). It
also seems SBS doesn't like another server in it's neighbourhood. We
already have 2 windows servers in our domain, so SBS as the third (or fouth)
server could give problems.
Ad
Pat [MSFT] wrote:
Show quoted text
> Given the company size, have you considered Small Business Server? That
> would be the cheapest way to obtain all of the technology - and
> would give you a single image install for the box.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Hi Andrew (and others)
>>
>> We are a small company with about 50 users (40 on Exchange). I'm
>> thinking of a dual Xeon 3.0 GHz with minimum 4 GB memory and lots of
>> diskspace. The VMs will be installed on the RAID 5 partition. Because
>> we're small the Sharepoint will just be the services and not
>> the portal server, it will also just be used internally (one single
>> site). I know about the R2 enterprise deal, but I want the initial costs
>> to
>> be as low as possible. The server to be replaced already has an OS
>> (non OEM), so we only need one for Exchange and BES. Sharepoint
>> will maybe be for later this year or even next year.
>> Do you (or anyone else) have any tips on how to install and tweak
>> the VMs? Ad
>>
>> Andrew Dugdell wrote:
>>> Hi Ad,
>>>
>>> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
>>> workloads running happily inside VMs.
>>> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
>>> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>>>
>>> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
>>> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
>>> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
>>> VM guest: KB 897614
>>> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
>>> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>>> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as
>>> a host: KB 867572
>>> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
>>> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>>>
>>> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
>>> but your post says Sharepoint.
>>> I don't have any articles on official support references for
>>> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>>>
>>> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition
>>> and software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional
>>> 4 virtualization CALs
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Original Clip ----
>>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>>> Blackberry.
>>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this
>>>> year. I'm also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on
>>>> Win2003R2. Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Ad
Sent: 02/23/2006
From: "trimbledayton" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On the issue of a Blackberry Server (BES) being housed in VS2005, It is NOT
supported by RIM and it also has causes very poor performance for the BES.
JVA
"Pat [MSFT]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> You can run Sharepoint in a VS environment, but you can scale a lot more
> by not. Depending on what you intend to do, running Sharepoint in the
> host you can run hundreds or 1000"s of portal sites on a single machine
> with a high degree of isolation w/out taking the virtualization hit.
>
> Exchange can be run in a Virtual environment but it really depends on the
> load that you will be running - i.e. how many users you will have.
>
>
> Pat
>
> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>> Blackberry.
>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we also
>> have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm also
>> thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual environment?
>> If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to install this?
>> When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ad
>>
>
>
Sent: 02/23/2006
From: "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Hi Andrew
Thanks for the link to this blog. I hadn't seen this one before. I'll
start some reading and when there are some questions left I'll drop a note.
Thanks.
cheers
Ad
Andrew Dugdell wrote:
Show quoted text
> Hi Ad,
>
> there is a collection of tips, tweaks and hints here:
> http://blogs.virtualserver.tv/blogs/virtualmachine/search.aspx?q=speed&p=1
> http://blogs.virtualserver.tv/blogs/virtualmachine/search.aspx?q=performance&p=1
>
> If anything in particluar comes to mind drop me a note
>
> cheers
>
> - Andrew
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Clip ----
> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Hi Andrew (and others)
>>
>> We are a small company with about 50 users (40 on Exchange). I'm
>> thinking of a dual Xeon 3.0 GHz with minimum 4 GB memory and lots of
>> diskspace. The VMs will be installed on the RAID 5 partition. Because
>> we're small the Sharepoint will just be the services and not
>> the portal server, it will also just be used internally (one single
>> site). I know about the R2 enterprise deal, but I want the initial costs
>> to
>> be as low as possible. The server to be replaced already has an OS
>> (non OEM), so we only need one for Exchange and BES. Sharepoint
>> will maybe be for later this year or even next year.
>> Do you (or anyone else) have any tips on how to install and tweak
>> the VMs? Ad
>>
>> Andrew Dugdell wrote:
>>> Hi Ad,
>>>
>>> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
>>> workloads running happily inside VMs.
>>> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
>>> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>>>
>>> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
>>> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
>>> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
>>> VM guest: KB 897614
>>> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
>>> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>>> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as
>>> a host: KB 867572
>>> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
>>> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>>>
>>> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
>>> but your post says Sharepoint.
>>> I don't have any articles on official support references for
>>> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>>>
>>> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition
>>> and software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional
>>> 4 virtualization CALs
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Original Clip ----
>>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>>> Blackberry.
>>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this
>>>> year. I'm also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on
>>>> Win2003R2. Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Ad
Sent: 02/23/2006
From: "Andrew Dugdell" <andrew @virtualserver.tv>
Message:Hi Ad,
there is a collection of tips, tweaks and hints here:
http://blogs.virtualserver.tv/blogs/virtualmachine/search.aspx?q=speed&p=1
http://blogs.virtualserver.tv/blogs/virtualmachine/search.aspx?q=performance&p=1
If anything in particluar comes to mind drop me a note
cheers
- Andrew
---- Original Clip ----
"Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text
> Hi Andrew (and others)
>
> We are a small company with about 50 users (40 on Exchange). I'm thinking
> of a dual Xeon 3.0 GHz with minimum 4 GB memory and lots of diskspace.
> The VMs will be installed on the RAID 5 partition. Because we're small
> the Sharepoint will just be the services and not the portal server, it
> will also just be used internally (one single site).
> I know about the R2 enterprise deal, but I want the initial costs to be as
> low as possible. The server to be replaced already has an OS (non OEM),
> so we only need one for Exchange and BES. Sharepoint will maybe be for
> later this year or even next year.
> Do you (or anyone else) have any tips on how to install and tweak the VMs?
>
> Ad
>
> Andrew Dugdell wrote:
>> Hi Ad,
>>
>> Yes you can technically do all of these, and have a seen all these
>> workloads running happily inside VMs.
>> If you have good hardware an supporting less than 200 users you will
>> probably have no issues for your scenario.
>>
>> If you want your installation to be oficially supported by Microsoft
>> Product Support, check out the following KB articles.
>> a.. Windows Server System software not explicitly supported within a
>> VM guest: KB 897614
>> a.. Virtual Server supported: KB 897613
>> a.. Exchange 2003 Explicitly Supported as a VM Guest: KB 320220
>> a.. Operating Systems that support Virtual Server as a guest and as a
>> host: KB 867572
>> a.. Support policy for Microsoft software running in non-Microsoft
>> hardware virtualization software : KB 897615
>>
>> Sharepoint Portal Server is explicitly not supported at this time,
>> but your post says Sharepoint.
>> I don't have any articles on official support references for
>> BlackBerry, but again have seen dozens of installs inside VMs
>>
>> My last thought is I would recommend buying R2 Enterprise edition and
>> software assurance and taking full adavantage of the additional 4
>> virtualization CALs
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensingr2/overview.mspx
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Clip ----
>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>> Blackberry.
>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year. I'm
>>> also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ad
>
>
Sent: 02/24/2006
From: "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Is this VS2005 or VS2005R2? It seems the last is much better in
performance.
trimbledayton wrote:
Show quoted text
> On the issue of a Blackberry Server (BES) being housed in VS2005, It
> is NOT supported by RIM and it also has causes very poor performance
> for the BES.
>
> JVA
> "Pat [MSFT]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> You can run Sharepoint in a VS environment, but you can scale a lot
>> more by not. Depending on what you intend to do, running Sharepoint
>> in the host you can run hundreds or 1000"s of portal sites on a
>> single machine with a high degree of isolation w/out taking the
>> virtualization hit. Exchange can be run in a Virtual environment but it
>> really depends
>> on the load that you will be running - i.e. how many users you will
>> have. Pat
>>
>> "Ad Suijkerbuijk" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> We want to start using Exchange for our mail, maybe combined with
>>> Blackberry.
>>> This would mean a server for Exchange, one for Blackberry and we
>>> also have a server running WSUS which should be replaced this year.
>>> I'm also thinking of a new server for Sharepoint.
>>> Is it a smart thing to have all these running in a virtual
>>> environment? If it's smart to do this, what's the best way to
>>> install this? When we do this we will be running VS2005R2 on Win2003R2.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ad
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