>I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
> evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering kernel
> panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM, running
> OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
>
> For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of network
> connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system to
> panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what is
> causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
> and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in XP.
> If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
>
> So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have new
> workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for Virtual
> Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
> able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Chris
>

> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the XP you
> are using is Pro and not Home?
>
> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering kernel
> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM, running
> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
> >
> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of network
> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system to
> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what is
> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in XP.
> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
> >
> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have new
> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for Virtual
> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >

> Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
>> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the XP
>> you
>> are using is Pro and not Home?
>
> Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
> matters (i.e. no activation).
>
>
> Chris
>
>>
>> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
>> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering kernel
>> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM, running
>> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
>> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
>> >
>> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of network
>> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system to
>> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what is
>> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
>> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
>> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
>> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
>> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in XP.
>> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
>> >
>> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have new
>> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for Virtual
>> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
>> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>

> No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would only
> use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
>
> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> >> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the XP
> >> you
> >> are using is Pro and not Home?
> >
> > Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
> > matters (i.e. no activation).
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >>
> >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> >> news:(email address - cut out)...
> >> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
> >> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering kernel
> >> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM, running
> >> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> >> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
> >> >
> >> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of network
> >> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system to
> >> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what is
> >> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> >> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> >> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> >> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
> >> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in XP.
> >> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
> >> >
> >> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have new
> >> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for Virtual
> >> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
> >> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >

> Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
>> No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would only
>> use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
>
> No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> it.
>
> It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> of launching the VPC, it never panics!
>
>
> Chris
>
>>
>> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
>> >> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the XP
>> >> you
>> >> are using is Pro and not Home?
>> >
>> > Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
>> > matters (i.e. no activation).
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> >> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
>> >> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering
>> >> > kernel
>> >> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM,
>> >> > running
>> >> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
>> >> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
>> >> >
>> >> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of
>> >> > network
>> >> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system
>> >> > to
>> >> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what
>> >> > is
>> >> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
>> >> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
>> >> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
>> >> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
>> >> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in
>> >> > XP.
>> >> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
>> >> >
>> >> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have
>> >> > new
>> >> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for
>> >> > Virtual
>> >> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
>> >> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
>> >> >
>> >
>

> Cute! :/
>
> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in messagenews:(email address - cut out)...
>
>
>
> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> >> No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would only
> >> use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
>
> > No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> > people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> > system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> > it.
>
> > It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> > of launching the VPC, it never panics!
>
> > Chris
>
> >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> >>news:(email address - cut out)...
> >> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> >> >> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the XP
> >> >> you
> >> >> are using is Pro and not Home?
>
> >> > Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
> >> > matters (i.e. no activation).
>
> >> > Chris
>
> >> >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> >> >>news:(email address - cut out)...
> >> >> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
> >> >> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering
> >> >> > kernel
> >> >> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM,
> >> >> > running
> >> >> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> >> >> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
>
> >> >> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of
> >> >> > network
> >> >> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> >> >> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> >> >> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> >> >> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
> >> >> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in
> >> >> > XP.
> >> >> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
>
> >> >> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have
> >> >> > new
> >> >> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for
> >> >> > Virtual
> >> >> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
> >> >> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
>
> >> >> > Thanks,
>
> >> >> > Chris- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

> On Nov 28, 3:07 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
> wrote:
> > Cute! :/
> >
> > "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in
> > "messagenews:(email address - cut out)...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > >> No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would
> > >> only
> > >> use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
> >
> > > No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> > > people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> > > system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> > > it.
> >
> > > It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> > > of launching the VPC, it never panics!
> >
> > > Chris
> >
> > >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> > >>news:(email address - cut out)...
> > >> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > >> >> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the
> > >> >> XP
> > >> >> you
> > >> >> are using is Pro and not Home?
> >
> > >> > Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
> > >> > matters (i.e. no activation).
> >
> > >> > Chris
> >
> > >> >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> > >> >>news:(email address - cut out)...
> > >> >> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen
> > >> >> >little
> > >> >> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering
> > >> >> > kernel
> > >> >> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM,
> > >> >> > running
> > >> >> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> > >> >> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
> >
> > >> >> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of
> > >> >> > network
> > >> >> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system
> > >> >> > to
> > >> >> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what
> > >> >> > is
> > >> >> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> > >> >> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> > >> >> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> > >> >> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a
> > >> >> > track)
> > >> >> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in
> > >> >> > XP.
> > >> >> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
> >
> > >> >> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have
> > >> >> > new
> > >> >> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for
> > >> >> > Virtual
> > >> >> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not
> > >> >> > being
> > >> >> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
> >
> > >> >> > Thanks,
> >
> > >> >> > Chris- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
>
> You are correct, Chris. Running iTunes with VPC will cause a kernel
> panic. Both are very processor intensive programs and seem to be
> competing for CPU time. Even for those who are not experiencing kernel
> panics (ie: single processor Macs), iTunes will cause a severe slowdown
> in VPC. My best advice? Don't use iTunes when using VPC .....and vice
> versa

> In article <(email address - cut out)>,
> "Paul Power" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 28, 3:07 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Cute! :/
>
> > > "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in
> > > "messagenews:(email address - cut out)...
>
> > > > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > > >> No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would
> > > >> only
> > > >> use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
>
> > > > No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> > > > people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> > > > system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> > > > it.
>
> > > > It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> > > > of launching the VPC, it never panics!
>
> > > > Chris
>
> > > >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> > > >>news:(email address - cut out)...
> > > >> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > > >> >> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the
> > > >> >> XP
> > > >> >> you
> > > >> >> are using is Pro and not Home?
>
> > > >> > Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
> > > >> > matters (i.e. no activation).
>
> > > >> > Chris
>
> > > >> >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> > > >> >>news:(email address - cut out)...
> > > >> >> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen
> > > >> >> >little
> > > >> >> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering
> > > >> >> > kernel
> > > >> >> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM,
> > > >> >> > running
> > > >> >> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> > > >> >> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
>
> > > >> >> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of
> > > >> >> > network
> > > >> >> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system
> > > >> >> > to
> > > >> >> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what
> > > >> >> > is
> > > >> >> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> > > >> >> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> > > >> >> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> > > >> >> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a
> > > >> >> > track)
> > > >> >> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in
> > > >> >> > XP.
> > > >> >> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
>
> > > >> >> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have
> > > >> >> > new
> > > >> >> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for
> > > >> >> > Virtual
> > > >> >> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not
> > > >> >> > being
> > > >> >> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
>
> > > >> >> > Thanks,
>
> > > >> >> > Chris- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
> > You are correct, Chris. Running iTunes with VPC will cause a kernel
> > panic. Both are very processor intensive programs and seem to be
> > competing for CPU time. Even for those who are not experiencing kernel
> > panics (ie: single processor Macs), iTunes will cause a severe slowdown
> > in VPC. My best advice? Don't use iTunes when using VPC .....and vice
> > versaI've not seen this problem at all on my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4. I can
> run iTunes 7.02 and VPC 7.02 simultaneously without problems. I have
> noticed that sometimes I get really choppy stream playback or something
> in VPC shuts down the network connection altogether. In that case, I
> just shutdown VPC, power cycle my cable modem and router, and run
> Network Diagnostics. The connection comes back just fine.
>
> No panic and no reboot required. YMMV.
>
> --
> DeeDee, don't press that button! DeeDee! NO! Dee...- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

> Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would only
> > use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
>
> No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> it.
>
> It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> of launching the VPC, it never panics!
>
> Chris
>
> >
> > "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> > news:(email address - cut out)...
> > > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > >> Since you are using a dual cpu system is it safe to assume that the XP
> > >> you
> > >> are using is Pro and not Home?
> > >
> > > Yes Colin, that's correct. It's a Volume License version, if that
> > > matters (i.e. no activation).
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >>
> > >> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> > >> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > >> >I know that this topic has been done to death, but I have seen little
> > >> > evidence as to what one should actually *do* when encountering kernel
> > >> > panics. I'm using VPC 7.02 on a dual 2.3GHz G5 with 1GB of RAM, running
> > >> > OS X 10.4.8. I've installed Windows XP (SP1 upgraded to SP2), and I
> > >> > think I have a repeatable way to panic a system.
> > >> >
> > >> > For reasons of workflow, I'm using the Virtual Switch method of network
> > >> > connectivity; which I think plays a large role in getting my system to
> > >> > panic. However, I have noticed that iTunes (of all things!) is what is
> > >> > causing me the most grief. Here is the scenario: if I use Virtual
> > >> > Switch networking, don't launch iTunes at all on my Mac and boot
> > >> > Windows XP in VPC, I never get a panic. If I use Virtual Switch
> > >> > networking, launch iTunes on my Mac (even if I *never* play a track)
> > >> > and boot XP, it will panic within 0-5 minutes of me logging on in XP.
> > >> > If I use Shared Networking, I don't think it panics at all.
> > >> >
> > >> > So... what do I do? If worse comes to worse, I suppose I could have new
> > >> > workflow where I try and use the other NIC built into my G5 for Virtual
> > >> > Switch networking, perhaps that will cure the problem. But not being
> > >> > able to use iTunes is a little rough for me :-)
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Chris
> > >> >
> > >

> In article <(email address - cut out)>,
> "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > > No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would only
> > > use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
> >
> > No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> > people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> > system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> > it.
> >
> > It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> > of launching the VPC, it never panics!
> >
>
> I got a dual 2.7 G5 running 10.4.8 with 2.5 GB RAM and have no problem
> with VPC and iTunes. My virtual switch is set to default, though.

> Kurt wrote:
> > In article <(email address - cut out)>,
> > "Chris Waltham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
> >
> > > Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
> > > > No it shouldn't matter. I asked the wrong question since a vm would
> > > > only
> > > > use one logical cpu anyway. My apologies for not remembering that.
> > >
> > > No problem, Colin :-) I saw some older messages on this group where
> > > people suspect panics originate from something to do with the host
> > > system (OS X) having dual CPUs, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned
> > > it.
> > >
> > > It is really baffling, though; if I don't have iTunes open at the time
> > > of launching the VPC, it never panics!
> > >
> >
> > I got a dual 2.7 G5 running 10.4.8 with 2.5 GB RAM and have no problem
> > with VPC and iTunes. My virtual switch is set to default, though.
>
> At the moment, my Virtual Switch is set to default too -- I haven't
> tried experimenting with the settings (yet). But I can crash my VM 100%
> of the time if I load iTunes, even if I never play a track :-\
>
>
> Chris