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VPC as a background service on OSX

Source: microsoft.public.mac.virtualpc
Sent: 02/01/2006
From: Matt Neimeyer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Short Version: Can I run VPC as a service on OSX Server?

Long Version: We have a legacy FoxPro application that we are connecting
to a small in house web application. The web app uses a PHP Extension
that connects to a service on a windows machine to bridge and connect to
the database via FoxPro ODBC. Right now it works GREAT using a G5 OS X
Server running 10.4.4 as our web server. Even I was surprised at the
responsiveness.

The hiccup is that the powers that be want to eliminate the Windows
Server that the client is running on (and redistribute those services it
provides elsewhere). My thinking is that I could use a VPC to replace
the Windows Server (since it would now be the only service on that
"box", the requirements should be light, even perhaps so far as taking
it down to XP Home or Win2K it just has to be any NT based windows like
2K or XP). We aren't talking heavy usage (MAYBE 40-50 people at a time).

What I need to be able to do (hopefully) is find a good way to have the
virtual machine start and stop gracefully when the OS X Server does with
a minimum of effort. How likely / easy is this or am I completely off
course? If I am does anyone have any suggestions? The FoxPro backend is
on the way out (once our design team finishes the up the rewrite) so
replacing with another "real" machine is impractical (or so I'm told).

Thanks for the help!

Matt

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Re: VPC as a background service on OSX

Sent: 02/01/2006
From: Michael Vilain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

In article <#(email address - cut out)>,
Matt Neimeyer <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Tell the powers that be they need to migrate off of FoxPro to dump the
windows box.

I think for VPC, 40-50 people accessing a web site would probably be
very slow. Prototype it and see if it works. Return VPC to MS if it
doesn't. It's only an interrim solution until you dump FoxPro anyway.

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> Short Version: Can I run VPC as a service on OSX Server?
>
> Long Version: We have a legacy FoxPro application that we are connecting
> to a small in house web application. The web app uses a PHP Extension
> that connects to a service on a windows machine to bridge and connect to
> the database via FoxPro ODBC. Right now it works GREAT using a G5 OS X
> Server running 10.4.4 as our web server. Even I was surprised at the
> responsiveness.
>
> The hiccup is that the powers that be want to eliminate the Windows
> Server that the client is running on (and redistribute those services it
> provides elsewhere). My thinking is that I could use a VPC to replace
> the Windows Server (since it would now be the only service on that
> "box", the requirements should be light, even perhaps so far as taking
> it down to XP Home or Win2K it just has to be any NT based windows like
> 2K or XP). We aren't talking heavy usage (MAYBE 40-50 people at a time).
>
> What I need to be able to do (hopefully) is find a good way to have the
> virtual machine start and stop gracefully when the OS X Server does with
> a minimum of effort. How likely / easy is this or am I completely off
> course? If I am does anyone have any suggestions? The FoxPro backend is
> on the way out (once our design team finishes the up the rewrite) so
> replacing with another "real" machine is impractical (or so I'm told).
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> Matt

Re: VPC as a background service on OSX

Sent: 02/01/2006
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:41:15 -0500, Matt Neimeyer <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

Not in any means supported by MS. You'd have to have some kind of
utilty that would launch, monitor, and shutdown VPC since it works
like a regular app on the desktop.

40-50 users is very heavy for VPC-Mac and its emulated environment.

Anything like this would have to be scripted. I'm not aware of
anything already done like this, so you'd probably need to do it all
yourself.

Honestly, I don't think VPC would perform the way you want or need it
to in this scenario.

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http://vpc.essjae.com/
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You assume all risk for your use.
I am not am employee of Microsoft."

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>Short Version: Can I run VPC as a service on OSX Server?
>
>Long Version: We have a legacy FoxPro application that we are connecting
>to a small in house web application. The web app uses a PHP Extension
>that connects to a service on a windows machine to bridge and connect to
>the database via FoxPro ODBC. Right now it works GREAT using a G5 OS X
>Server running 10.4.4 as our web server. Even I was surprised at the
>responsiveness.
>
>The hiccup is that the powers that be want to eliminate the Windows
>Server that the client is running on (and redistribute those services it
>provides elsewhere). My thinking is that I could use a VPC to replace
>the Windows Server (since it would now be the only service on that
>"box", the requirements should be light, even perhaps so far as taking
>it down to XP Home or Win2K it just has to be any NT based windows like
>2K or XP). We aren't talking heavy usage (MAYBE 40-50 people at a time).
>
>What I need to be able to do (hopefully) is find a good way to have the
>virtual machine start and stop gracefully when the OS X Server does with
>a minimum of effort. How likely / easy is this or am I completely off
>course? If I am does anyone have any suggestions? The FoxPro backend is
>on the way out (once our design team finishes the up the rewrite) so
>replacing with another "real" machine is impractical (or so I'm told).

Re: VPC as a background service on OSX

Sent: 02/01/2006
From: "Paul Power" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Certainly not what VPC was designed for.

Too many variables included, so it be quite the job to make it stable
even if you were able to get it working at all.

Too many customized scripts to write to make it run as a service
dependent on the OS X Server.

MAJOR job. If you do decide to take it on, keep us informed of your
progress. Very interesting prospect.

Re: VPC as a background service on OSX

Sent: 02/01/2006
From: Richard Cardona <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Matt,
I'm with others here. I don't think VPC is a good way to consolidate
your FoxPro app off your existing PC. That said, VPC could effectively
be in the background in a secondary login that you could fast-switch
into/out of. VPC would not start automatically on boot like other true
daemons but VPC would be out of sight for all other interactive work.

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