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Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 04/18/2009
From: Craig
Message:

Any suggestions welcome to my problem

I've been using Virtual Server 2005 (hold with me a minute here) on XP Pro
x64 on two machines for some time now but felt I should really move my more
powerful machine to Hyper-V and get Vista onto my laptop for management, and
continue to use VS2005 (R2 SP1) on Vista (I know it's not supported, it's not
supported on XP either - except non-production, which this is in fact, it's
my test labs). The Vista host would guest a couple of client machines
(XP/Vista) that would interact with the rest of the VM network hosted on the
second machine

So...

Hyper-V on second box, fine, no problems (yet)

Vista Business x64 on laptop (x64 for cpu and ram support) and install
VS2005 R2 SP1 (plus SP1 update for extended client OS support) on, on trying
to build a guest (xp x86 and also tried server 2003 x86) from scratch for
initial check, the host machine reboots

I never had any problems like this with XP Pro x64...so I'm thinking - oh
well VS2005 R2 SP1 def not supported, move to Virtual PC 2007

Same results

I've turned AMD-V on/off - same result
Updated my BroadCom 57xx drivers - same result
Uninstalled/installed VS2005 R2 SP1 inbetween both of the above - same result
Uninstalled/installed VPC2007 inbetween both of the above - same result

Issue doesn't present itself using VMware Server

Any suggestions?

I do have a TechNet Plus subscription, so mI may have found a reason at last
to use one of my two free assistance calls!

TIA

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Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/18/2009
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

First thing I'd check for is a BIOS update for your laptop.

Is there a bugcheck event in the Event viewer?

--
Bob Comer

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:14:05 -0700, Craig
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>Any suggestions welcome to my problem
>
>I've been using Virtual Server 2005 (hold with me a minute here) on XP Pro
>x64 on two machines for some time now but felt I should really move my more
>powerful machine to Hyper-V and get Vista onto my laptop for management, and
>continue to use VS2005 (R2 SP1) on Vista (I know it's not supported, it's not
>supported on XP either - except non-production, which this is in fact, it's
>my test labs). The Vista host would guest a couple of client machines
>(XP/Vista) that would interact with the rest of the VM network hosted on the
>second machine
>
>So...
>
>Hyper-V on second box, fine, no problems (yet)
>
>Vista Business x64 on laptop (x64 for cpu and ram support) and install
>VS2005 R2 SP1 (plus SP1 update for extended client OS support) on, on trying
>to build a guest (xp x86 and also tried server 2003 x86) from scratch for
>initial check, the host machine reboots
>
>I never had any problems like this with XP Pro x64...so I'm thinking - oh
>well VS2005 R2 SP1 def not supported, move to Virtual PC 2007
>
>Same results
>
>I've turned AMD-V on/off - same result
>Updated my BroadCom 57xx drivers - same result
>Uninstalled/installed VS2005 R2 SP1 inbetween both of the above - same result
>Uninstalled/installed VPC2007 inbetween both of the above - same result
>
>Issue doesn't present itself using VMware Server
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>I do have a TechNet Plus subscription, so mI may have found a reason at last
>to use one of my two free assistance calls!
>
>TIA

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/18/2009
From: Craig
Message:

Rob

Thanks for the reply

BIOS is A08, laptop is a Dell D531 - bang up to date

I'd been through the logs at a glance when I was having problems and nothing
was flagging as warning or critical - other than a critical to say there was
an unexpected shutdown...nothing more than that.

However I'd just had a closer looks at noticed Volume Shadow Copy is
on...might be a cause, so I'll have a tinker with turning that off if I can
and see how I go...any further suggestions will be appreciated

"Robert Comer" wrote:

Show quoted text

> First thing I'd check for is a BIOS update for your laptop.
>
> Is there a bugcheck event in the Event viewer?
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:14:05 -0700, Craig
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >Any suggestions welcome to my problem
> >
> >I've been using Virtual Server 2005 (hold with me a minute here) on XP Pro
> >x64 on two machines for some time now but felt I should really move my more
> >powerful machine to Hyper-V and get Vista onto my laptop for management, and
> >continue to use VS2005 (R2 SP1) on Vista (I know it's not supported, it's not
> >supported on XP either - except non-production, which this is in fact, it's
> >my test labs). The Vista host would guest a couple of client machines
> >(XP/Vista) that would interact with the rest of the VM network hosted on the
> >second machine
> >
> >So...
> >
> >Hyper-V on second box, fine, no problems (yet)
> >
> >Vista Business x64 on laptop (x64 for cpu and ram support) and install
> >VS2005 R2 SP1 (plus SP1 update for extended client OS support) on, on trying
> >to build a guest (xp x86 and also tried server 2003 x86) from scratch for
> >initial check, the host machine reboots
> >
> >I never had any problems like this with XP Pro x64...so I'm thinking - oh
> >well VS2005 R2 SP1 def not supported, move to Virtual PC 2007
> >
> >Same results
> >
> >I've turned AMD-V on/off - same result
> >Updated my BroadCom 57xx drivers - same result
> >Uninstalled/installed VS2005 R2 SP1 inbetween both of the above - same result
> >Uninstalled/installed VPC2007 inbetween both of the above - same result
> >
> >Issue doesn't present itself using VMware Server
> >
> >Any suggestions?
> >
> >I do have a TechNet Plus subscription, so mI may have found a reason at last
> >to use one of my two free assistance calls!
> >
> >TIA
>

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/18/2009
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>However I'd just had a closer looks at noticed Volume Shadow Copy is

That shouldn't really be the problem.

I kind of think it might be your NIC driver, I've seen problems with
other broadcoms. I really don't know if it would help diagnose this
or not, but can you set the network adapter for a VM to "Not
connected" to see if that lets a VM run?

--
Bob Comer

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:18:01 -0700, Craig
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>on...might be a cause, so I'll have a tinker with turning that off if I can
>and see how I go...any further suggestions will be appreciated
>Rob
>
>Thanks for the reply
>
>BIOS is A08, laptop is a Dell D531 - bang up to date
>
>I'd been through the logs at a glance when I was having problems and nothing
>was flagging as warning or critical - other than a critical to say there was
>an unexpected shutdown...nothing more than that.
>
>However I'd just had a closer looks at noticed Volume Shadow Copy is
>on...might be a cause, so I'll have a tinker with turning that off if I can
>and see how I go...any further suggestions will be appreciated
>
>"Robert Comer" wrote:
>
>> First thing I'd check for is a BIOS update for your laptop.
>>
>> Is there a bugcheck event in the Event viewer?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:14:05 -0700, Craig
>> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>>
>> >Any suggestions welcome to my problem
>> >
>> >I've been using Virtual Server 2005 (hold with me a minute here) on XP Pro
>> >x64 on two machines for some time now but felt I should really move my more
>> >powerful machine to Hyper-V and get Vista onto my laptop for management, and
>> >continue to use VS2005 (R2 SP1) on Vista (I know it's not supported, it's not
>> >supported on XP either - except non-production, which this is in fact, it's
>> >my test labs). The Vista host would guest a couple of client machines
>> >(XP/Vista) that would interact with the rest of the VM network hosted on the
>> >second machine
>> >
>> >So...
>> >
>> >Hyper-V on second box, fine, no problems (yet)
>> >
>> >Vista Business x64 on laptop (x64 for cpu and ram support) and install
>> >VS2005 R2 SP1 (plus SP1 update for extended client OS support) on, on trying
>> >to build a guest (xp x86 and also tried server 2003 x86) from scratch for
>> >initial check, the host machine reboots
>> >
>> >I never had any problems like this with XP Pro x64...so I'm thinking - oh
>> >well VS2005 R2 SP1 def not supported, move to Virtual PC 2007
>> >
>> >Same results
>> >
>> >I've turned AMD-V on/off - same result
>> >Updated my BroadCom 57xx drivers - same result
>> >Uninstalled/installed VS2005 R2 SP1 inbetween both of the above - same result
>> >Uninstalled/installed VPC2007 inbetween both of the above - same result
>> >
>> >Issue doesn't present itself using VMware Server
>> >
>> >Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >I do have a TechNet Plus subscription, so mI may have found a reason at last
>> >to use one of my two free assistance calls!
>> >
>> >TIA
>>

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/19/2009
From: Craig
Message:

I've configured test VM Guest with no NIC and no change

May be calling MS today!

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/19/2009
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

That's probably the best.

--
Bob Comer

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:16:01 -0700, Craig
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>I've configured test VM Guest with no NIC and no change
>
>May be calling MS today!

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/21/2009
From: Steffen Koch <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Craig schrieb:

eventually you turned on hardware virtualization in your vm but not in
your laptops BIOS

regards
Steffen

Show quoted text

> Any suggestions welcome to my problem
>
> I've been using Virtual Server 2005 (hold with me a minute here) on XP Pro
> x64 on two machines for some time now but felt I should really move my more
> powerful machine to Hyper-V and get Vista onto my laptop for management, and
> continue to use VS2005 (R2 SP1) on Vista (I know it's not supported, it's not
> supported on XP either - except non-production, which this is in fact, it's
> my test labs). The Vista host would guest a couple of client machines
> (XP/Vista) that would interact with the rest of the VM network hosted on the
> second machine
>
> So...
>
> Hyper-V on second box, fine, no problems (yet)
>
> Vista Business x64 on laptop (x64 for cpu and ram support) and install
> VS2005 R2 SP1 (plus SP1 update for extended client OS support) on, on trying
> to build a guest (xp x86 and also tried server 2003 x86) from scratch for
> initial check, the host machine reboots
>
> I never had any problems like this with XP Pro x64...so I'm thinking - oh
> well VS2005 R2 SP1 def not supported, move to Virtual PC 2007
>
> Same results
>
> I've turned AMD-V on/off - same result
> Updated my BroadCom 57xx drivers - same result
> Uninstalled/installed VS2005 R2 SP1 inbetween both of the above - same result
> Uninstalled/installed VPC2007 inbetween both of the above - same result
>
> Issue doesn't present itself using VMware Server
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> I do have a TechNet Plus subscription, so mI may have found a reason at last
> to use one of my two free assistance calls!
>
> TIA

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/29/2009
From: Craig
Message:

I hadn't gotten around to speaking to Microsoft as of yet but have just put
together a couple of new platforms for my VM guest (in addition to the
existing setup and laptop)

I rebuilt the laptop back to XP x64; did all the usual updates etc etc

Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 + UPDATE

My lone XP SP3 guest rebooted the host (laptop) when I fired it up

I've turned OFF hardware assistance for the VM Guest itself...fires
fine...anyone know if anything was changed in HW Assistance in the Update
that was released...seems a bit odd I've NEVER had any problems with HWA
before now

Thanks

Show quoted text

>
> eventually you turned on hardware virtualization in your vm but not in
> your laptops BIOS
>
> regards
> Steffen
>

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/29/2009
From: "Steve Jain [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:44:04 -0700, Craig
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:

It's usually a bug in the BIOS, try updating your BIOS.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

Show quoted text

>I hadn't gotten around to speaking to Microsoft as of yet but have just put
>together a couple of new platforms for my VM guest (in addition to the
>existing setup and laptop)
>
>I rebuilt the laptop back to XP x64; did all the usual updates etc etc
>
>Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 + UPDATE
>
>My lone XP SP3 guest rebooted the host (laptop) when I fired it up
>
>I've turned OFF hardware assistance for the VM Guest itself...fires
>fine...anyone know if anything was changed in HW Assistance in the Update
>that was released...seems a bit odd I've NEVER had any problems with HWA
>before now

Re: Virtual Guest reboots Host Operating System

Sent: 04/29/2009
From: Craig
Message:

As I say earlier in the thread the BIOS is up to date and I've been using VS
Server 2005 on the laptop for the past year (host OS XP x64) without issue

I need to get some time to methodically evaluate all possible variables and
I'll come back with a definitive answer (and maybe fix?!)

Thanks

"Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote:

Show quoted text

> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:44:04 -0700, Craig
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
> >I hadn't gotten around to speaking to Microsoft as of yet but have just put
> >together a couple of new platforms for my VM guest (in addition to the
> >existing setup and laptop)
> >
> >I rebuilt the laptop back to XP x64; did all the usual updates etc etc
> >
> >Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 + UPDATE
> >
> >My lone XP SP3 guest rebooted the host (laptop) when I fired it up
> >
> >I've turned OFF hardware assistance for the VM Guest itself...fires
> >fine...anyone know if anything was changed in HW Assistance in the Update
> >that was released...seems a bit odd I've NEVER had any problems with HWA
> >before now
>
> It's usually a bug in the BIOS, try updating your BIOS.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>

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