>I'm planning to use MS VirtualPC 2007 on new hardware, based on Intel E8400
>64 bit processor, with 8 GB RAM.
>
>I've never used MS virtual op syses, so I have some questions:
>
>1. I intend to use XP Pro x64 as Host Op sys - I assume that's OK?
>2. I believe it's sensible to install Virtual PC 2005 x64 version after
>that - OK?
>
>The I assume that one of the basic principals is that a host op sys can be
>either 32 or 64 bit, but only 32 bit guest op syses are supporeted?
>
>Then I'll need Vista from time to time. I wonder if any Vista Home version
>is currently supported, or do I have to install some Vista Business version
>as guest opsys?
>
>In addition, still, I have understood Linux distros are not officially
>supported by Virtual PC 2007. I wonder, if some one has any experience of
>that?
>
>Kaj B.
>

> Besides the initial setup of VM environment I'm also wondering how to
> install Visual Studio 2008 in virtual environment.
> Which one would make more sense:
> - Install VS 2008 on the x64 XP Pro (which will be the host op sys)
> - Install it on XP Pro 32-bit guest VM
> I should start developing an application for .NET environment, and the
> application should be able to interface with TWAIN based scanners. Will
> this cause problems when using virtual machines?

> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:45:56 +0200, "Kajbre" <(email address - cut out)>
> wrote:
>
>>I'm planning to use MS VirtualPC 2007 on new hardware, based on Intel
>>E8400
>>64 bit processor, with 8 GB RAM.
>>
>>I've never used MS virtual op syses, so I have some questions:
>>
>>1. I intend to use XP Pro x64 as Host Op sys - I assume that's OK?
>
> Yes.
>
>>2. I believe it's sensible to install Virtual PC 2005 x64 version after
>>that - OK?
>
> Yes, download the x64 version of VPC 2007
>
>>
>>The I assume that one of the basic principals is that a host op sys can be
>>either 32 or 64 bit, but only 32 bit guest op syses are supporeted?
>
> Yes, with VPC you can only run 32bit guest OSes.
>
>>
>>Then I'll need Vista from time to time. I wonder if any Vista Home
>>version
>>is currently supported, or do I have to install some Vista Business
>>version
>>as guest opsys?
>
> Home is not supported by MS tech support, but you can still install it
> and it will work fine. You just can't call MS for technical support
> help.
>
>>
>>In addition, still, I have understood Linux distros are not officially
>>supported by Virtual PC 2007. I wonder, if some one has any experience of
>>that?
>>
>>Kaj B.
>>
>
> Linux isn't supported by MS, but you can still install and use it just
> fine. There are no VM Additions for Linux, so you won't have the same
> integration features as a Windows VM. Iif you're going to be doing a
> lot of Linux, you should look into VirtualBox or VM Ware Workstation.
> These have offical support for Linux and can run together on the same
> system along with VPC.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>>

>with guest op syses, too.
>Perhaps I'll start studying VMWare now in more details.
>Thanks for your help!
>
>"Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> "Kajbre" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:Not_k.101508$(email address - cut out)...
>>
>>> Yeah, I found a good comparison table for different virtual machine
>>> systems. It also shows that USB support for guest os IS supported in
>>> VMWare but NOT in VPC 2007, so I may have to choose VMWare for this
>>> reason.
>>
>> Which is what I said...
>>
>>> But If I choose VMWare, so do I lose some functions, e.g concerning
>>> interface between different Windows virtual machines, like using MS SQL
>>> Server (or other) database on one VM from different VMs?
>>
>> No. In many ways, VMWare is a far superior product.
>>
>>
>Ok, I've also understood that with VMWare you usually get better performance
>with guest op syses, too.
>Perhaps I'll start studying VMWare now in more details.
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Kaj B.
>

>it's impossible to be prepared to everything in IT branch :=(
>I'm getting my new hardware next week, and I'll try to make the decsions
>before installing any software on the new hardware, except the host op.sys,
>which will be XP Pro x64, unless some one will prove that some Linux distro
>would be a better option.
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >Ok, I've also understood that with VMWare you usually get better
>> >performance
>>>with guest op syses, too.
>>
>> That's actually not always true.
>>
>>>Perhaps I'll start studying VMWare now in more details.
>>>Thanks for your help!
>>
>> It's best to use the product that best suits your needs -- it's smart
>> to study what's out there and decide based on your own needs.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>I agree with you. Obviously the first thing is to define your own needs.
>The problem is that if one knows what to do in the beginning, your needs may
>change in the future and I would like to avoid any extra work. But I suppose
>it's impossible to be prepared to everything in IT branch :=(
>
>So far I've tried to collect information from the net and I've also received
>some information from a couple of collegues.
>
>I'm getting my new hardware next week, and I'll try to make the decsions
>before installing any software on the new hardware, except the host op.sys,
>which will be XP Pro x64, unless some one will prove that some Linux distro
>would be a better option.
>
>Kaj B.
>

> Yeah, I found a good comparison table for different virtual machine
> systems. It also shows that USB support for guest os IS supported in
> VMWare but NOT in VPC 2007, so I may have to choose VMWare for this
> reason.
> But If I choose VMWare, so do I lose some functions, e.g concerning
> interface between different Windows virtual machines, like using MS SQL
> Server (or other) database on one VM from different VMs?

> "Kajbre" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:cJi_k.101365$(email address - cut out)...
>
> Ah... If the scanner has a serial interface, you should have no problem as
> serial ports are emulated in virtual machines. However, if the scanner has
> a USB interface, a VPC VM won't be able to work with it, as USB devices
> are not supported at all. The only exceptions to this are USB devices
> which can be emulated. E.g. USB mice and keyboards attached to the host
> can be used by a guest because they are emulated as PS/2 devices, and USB
> storage devices (e.g. memory sticks, external hard drives etc) can be used
> through standard networking protocols. Since there's no emulation for
> scanner devices, however, you're almost certainly out of luck with this
> type of device. Therefore, you'll need to either run Visual Studio.NET
> 2008 on the host, or use another type of virtualisation product e.g.
> VMWare which supports USB devices natively...
>

> "Kajbre" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:Not_k.101508$(email address - cut out)...
>
>> Yeah, I found a good comparison table for different virtual machine
>> systems. It also shows that USB support for guest os IS supported in
>> VMWare but NOT in VPC 2007, so I may have to choose VMWare for this
>> reason.
>
> Which is what I said...
>
>> But If I choose VMWare, so do I lose some functions, e.g concerning
>> interface between different Windows virtual machines, like using MS SQL
>> Server (or other) database on one VM from different VMs?
>
> No. In many ways, VMWare is a far superior product.
>
>

> I'm getting my new hardware next week, and I'll try to make the decsions
> before installing any software on the new hardware, except the host
> op.sys, which will be XP Pro x64, unless some one will prove that some
> Linux distro would be a better option.

> except the host op.sys which will be XP Pro x64

> >Ok, I've also understood that with VMWare you usually get better
> >performance
>>with guest op syses, too.
>
> That's actually not always true.
>
>>Perhaps I'll start studying VMWare now in more details.
>>Thanks for your help!
>
> It's best to use the product that best suits your needs -- it's smart
> to study what's out there and decide based on your own needs.
>
> --
> Bob Comer

> "Kajbre" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:ZMw_k.101641$(email address - cut out)...
>
>> I'm getting my new hardware next week, and I'll try to make the decsions
>> before installing any software on the new hardware, except the host
>> op.sys, which will be XP Pro x64, unless some one will prove that some
>> Linux distro would be a better option.
>
>
> If you install Linux as the host OS, you can forget VPC as that will not
> install and run on anything other than Windows...
>

> I'd rather go Vista x64 if you want an x64 client OS, but you might
> want to look at Win2008 Standard Server, it has Hyper-V which is
> another Microsoft Virtualization product that is geared more towards
> performance and scaling. It doesn't have USB support, but it can
> access raw disks as long as they are unmounted in the host system, and
> I'm pretty sure it supports smart cards. (I don't have anything like
> that to test.) If you don't install hyper-V it can run VPC and
> Virtual Server, as well as the VMWare products just fine too. It's a
> more robust choice...
>
> For Linux, I like Ubuntu for a workstation type job, and SUSE more for
> the server type, but I really only look at these for low cost PC's and
> prefer Windows. I use VMWare Workstation or VMWare Server when I'm
> using a Linux host, though the VM performance really isn't up to the
> Windows versions.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>