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VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 04/28/2008
From: "Joseph" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Hello,
I have VPC2007 installed on vista business. The virtual guest OS is XP
Professional SP2. The host has 3 network adapters, a wifi adapter,lan
adapter and a verizon broadband card. The vitual machine can recognize and
bridge the TCP/IP parameters for the wifi and lan adapters correctly, but
does not recongnize the Broadband card. Is there a way to recognize the
broadband card so it can be used and in the virtual XP machine? TIA.
Joe

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Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/28/2008
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

How is the Verizon card attached?

"Joseph" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:e9V$(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> Hello,
> I have VPC2007 installed on vista business. The virtual guest OS is XP
> Professional SP2. The host has 3 network adapters, a wifi adapter,lan
> adapter and a verizon broadband card. The vitual machine can recognize and
> bridge the TCP/IP parameters for the wifi and lan adapters correctly, but
> does not recongnize the Broadband card. Is there a way to recognize the
> broadband card so it can be used and in the virtual XP machine? TIA.
> Joe
>

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface

Not strange at all, it works just like a dial up modem. It's not an
always on connection like a DSL or cable, it has to dial in to the
network...

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:09:41 +0200, Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

Show quoted text

>card (NIC) that is true...
>Strange though that the card is not a NIC.
>>"Joseph" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:e9V$(email address - cut out)...
>>> Hello,
>>> I have VPC2007 installed on vista business. The virtual guest OS is XP
>>> Professional SP2. The host has 3 network adapters, a wifi adapter,lan
>>> adapter and a verizon broadband card. The vitual machine can recognize and
>>> bridge the TCP/IP parameters for the wifi and lan adapters correctly, but
>>> does not recongnize the Broadband card. Is there a way to recognize the
>>> broadband card so it can be used and in the virtual XP machine? TIA.
>>> Joe
>>>
>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:30:17 +1000, "Bill Grant"
><not.available@online> wrote:
>
>> To use the broadband connection from the vm I suspect you will need to do
>>one of two things.
>>
>>1. Use Shared Networking (NAT) to share the Internet connection.
>> or
>>2. Run ICS on the host machine to share the Internet connection to the vm.
>>
>> If the host connects to the Internet via braodband, you cannot use that
>>connection directly from the vm, any more than you can use a broadband
>>connection on one PC from a second PC. You need to use some sort of Internet
>>sharing software to share the connection.
>>
>
>As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface
>card (NIC) that is true...
>Strange though that the card is not a NIC.
>
>
>Bo Berglund

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: "Jordan" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Correct. This is a modem, not a nic. It has a phone number and needs to
dial #777 and pass a username and password to the remote network. I believe
some of the Verizon USB cards are misleading and show a NIC, but also a dial
up connection in Network Settings

I wonder?? If you use ICS on your built in NIC (Not the Verizon card) that
probably will not work because the NIC will be inactive and no IP address
because it is unplugged so VPC should not function because it cannot piggy
back on the inactive NIC.

However, I believe the NAT option that Bill suggested should work because it
is not bound to the NIC - No?

"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> >As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface
>>card (NIC) that is true...
>>Strange though that the card is not a NIC.
>
> Not strange at all, it works just like a dial up modem. It's not an
> always on connection like a DSL or cable, it has to dial in to the
> network...
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:09:41 +0200, Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
> wrote:
>
>>>"Joseph" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>news:e9V$(email address - cut out)...
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I have VPC2007 installed on vista business. The virtual guest OS is XP
>>>> Professional SP2. The host has 3 network adapters, a wifi adapter,lan
>>>> adapter and a verizon broadband card. The vitual machine can recognize
>>>> and
>>>> bridge the TCP/IP parameters for the wifi and lan adapters correctly,
>>>> but
>>>> does not recongnize the Broadband card. Is there a way to recognize the
>>>> broadband card so it can be used and in the virtual XP machine? TIA.
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:30:17 +1000, "Bill Grant"
>><not.available@online> wrote:
>>
>>> To use the broadband connection from the vm I suspect you will need to
>>> do
>>>one of two things.
>>>
>>>1. Use Shared Networking (NAT) to share the Internet connection.
>>> or
>>>2. Run ICS on the host machine to share the Internet connection to the
>>>vm.
>>>
>>> If the host connects to the Internet via braodband, you cannot use
>>> that
>>>connection directly from the vm, any more than you can use a broadband
>>>connection on one PC from a second PC. You need to use some sort of
>>>Internet
>>>sharing software to share the connection.
>>>
>>
>>As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface
>>card (NIC) that is true...
>>Strange though that the card is not a NIC.
>>
>>
>>Bo Berglund
>

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>I wonder?? If you use ICS on your built in NIC (Not the Verizon card) that

That would be true, but you can use a loopback adapter + ICS. I'd go
ahead and use just plain shared networking(NAT) unless there a reason
to access the guest from the host, then I'd use the loopback+ICS.

I haven't tried it myself, but I expect that it would work.

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:23:27 -0400, "Jordan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

Show quoted text

>probably will not work because the NIC will be inactive and no IP address
>because it is unplugged so VPC should not function because it cannot piggy
>back on the inactive NIC.
>However, I believe the NAT option that Bill suggested should work because it
>is not bound to the NIC - No?
>Correct. This is a modem, not a nic. It has a phone number and needs to
>dial #777 and pass a username and password to the remote network. I believe
>some of the Verizon USB cards are misleading and show a NIC, but also a dial
>up connection in Network Settings
>
>I wonder?? If you use ICS on your built in NIC (Not the Verizon card) that
>probably will not work because the NIC will be inactive and no IP address
>because it is unplugged so VPC should not function because it cannot piggy
>back on the inactive NIC.
>
>However, I believe the NAT option that Bill suggested should work because it
>is not bound to the NIC - No?
>
>"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface
>>>card (NIC) that is true...
>>>Strange though that the card is not a NIC.
>>
>> Not strange at all, it works just like a dial up modem. It's not an
>> always on connection like a DSL or cable, it has to dial in to the
>> network...
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:09:41 +0200, Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>"Joseph" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>>>news:e9V$(email address - cut out)...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I have VPC2007 installed on vista business. The virtual guest OS is XP
>>>>> Professional SP2. The host has 3 network adapters, a wifi adapter,lan
>>>>> adapter and a verizon broadband card. The vitual machine can recognize
>>>>> and
>>>>> bridge the TCP/IP parameters for the wifi and lan adapters correctly,
>>>>> but
>>>>> does not recongnize the Broadband card. Is there a way to recognize the
>>>>> broadband card so it can be used and in the virtual XP machine? TIA.
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:30:17 +1000, "Bill Grant"
>>><not.available@online> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To use the broadband connection from the vm I suspect you will need to
>>>> do
>>>>one of two things.
>>>>
>>>>1. Use Shared Networking (NAT) to share the Internet connection.
>>>> or
>>>>2. Run ICS on the host machine to share the Internet connection to the
>>>>vm.
>>>>
>>>> If the host connects to the Internet via braodband, you cannot use
>>>> that
>>>>connection directly from the vm, any more than you can use a broadband
>>>>connection on one PC from a second PC. You need to use some sort of
>>>>Internet
>>>>sharing software to share the connection.
>>>>
>>>
>>>As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface
>>>card (NIC) that is true...
>>>Strange though that the card is not a NIC.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bo Berglund
>>
>
>

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: Robert Comer <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>Btw: Is WinGate still around? It served us well until DSL came around.

Yep, but it's more of a general proxy these days.

Shared Networking(NAT) should approximate the same functionality for a
VM, though you may have dial problems like you suggest. It tends to
mark a connection as inactive for so too and disconnect, so you might
want to run something on the host to keep the connection open...

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:48:21 +0200, Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:

Show quoted text

>On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:23:27 -0400, "Jordan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>Correct. This is a modem, not a nic. It has a phone number and needs to
>>dial #777 and pass a username and password to the remote network. I believe
>>some of the Verizon USB cards are misleading and show a NIC, but also a dial
>>up connection in Network Settings
>>
>>I wonder?? If you use ICS on your built in NIC (Not the Verizon card) that
>>probably will not work because the NIC will be inactive and no IP address
>>because it is unplugged so VPC should not function because it cannot piggy
>>back on the inactive NIC.
>>
>>However, I believe the NAT option that Bill suggested should work because it
>>is not bound to the NIC - No?
>
>In the old days of the Internet (circa mid-1990) we usually had a
>dial-up connection using modem to connect the net.
>We ran a small office with internal networking and one of the PC:s was
>running as a proxy server with WinGate as the software.
>WinGate was configured to dial in to the ISP when it detected a
>browser call and then it kept the connection running for a certain
>time after the last browser call. Thus, often when a browser hit the
>proxyserver the connection was up and the call could be immediately
>served.
>
>In this case with a dialup broadband modem I think that the host could
>serve as a proxyserver and have a WinGate-like software running to
>handle the dialup. It would then be able to serve the virtual machines
>as well.
>
>Btw: Is WinGate still around? It served us well until DSL came around.
>
>
>Bo Berglund

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

>"Joseph" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:30:17 +1000, "Bill Grant"
<not.available@online> wrote:

As long as the broadband card is not recognized as a network interface
card (NIC) that is true...
Strange though that the card is not a NIC.

Bo Berglund

Show quoted text

>news:e9V$(email address - cut out)...
>> Hello,
>> I have VPC2007 installed on vista business. The virtual guest OS is XP
>> Professional SP2. The host has 3 network adapters, a wifi adapter,lan
>> adapter and a verizon broadband card. The vitual machine can recognize and
>> bridge the TCP/IP parameters for the wifi and lan adapters correctly, but
>> does not recongnize the Broadband card. Is there a way to recognize the
>> broadband card so it can be used and in the virtual XP machine? TIA.
>> Joe
>>
> To use the broadband connection from the vm I suspect you will need to do
>one of two things.
>
>1. Use Shared Networking (NAT) to share the Internet connection.
> or
>2. Run ICS on the host machine to share the Internet connection to the vm.
>
> If the host connects to the Internet via braodband, you cannot use that
>connection directly from the vm, any more than you can use a broadband
>connection on one PC from a second PC. You need to use some sort of Internet
>sharing software to share the connection.
>

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message:

To use the broadband connection from the vm I suspect you will need to do
one of two things.

1. Use Shared Networking (NAT) to share the Internet connection.
or
2. Run ICS on the host machine to share the Internet connection to the vm.

If the host connects to the Internet via braodband, you cannot use that
connection directly from the vm, any more than you can use a broadband
connection on one PC from a second PC. You need to use some sort of Internet
sharing software to share the connection.

"Joseph" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:e9V$(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

Re: VPC2007 does not recognize Verizon Broadband Card

Sent: 04/29/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:23:27 -0400, "Jordan" <(email address - cut out)> wrote:

In the old days of the Internet (circa mid-1990) we usually had a
dial-up connection using modem to connect the net.
We ran a small office with internal networking and one of the PC:s was
running as a proxy server with WinGate as the software.
WinGate was configured to dial in to the ISP when it detected a
browser call and then it kept the connection running for a certain
time after the last browser call. Thus, often when a browser hit the
proxyserver the connection was up and the call could be immediately
served.

In this case with a dialup broadband modem I think that the host could
serve as a proxyserver and have a WinGate-like software running to
handle the dialup. It would then be able to serve the virtual machines
as well.

Btw: Is WinGate still around? It served us well until DSL came around.

Bo Berglund

Show quoted text

>Correct. This is a modem, not a nic. It has a phone number and needs to
>dial #777 and pass a username and password to the remote network. I believe
>some of the Verizon USB cards are misleading and show a NIC, but also a dial
>up connection in Network Settings
>
>I wonder?? If you use ICS on your built in NIC (Not the Verizon card) that
>probably will not work because the NIC will be inactive and no IP address
>because it is unplugged so VPC should not function because it cannot piggy
>back on the inactive NIC.
>
>However, I believe the NAT option that Bill suggested should work because it
>is not bound to the NIC - No?

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