> That is not really a good idea. SBS is designed to run as both a DC and
> as a router, but the standard version of Windows Server is not. You will
> have all sorts of odd problems running a multihomed DC. Yo really need at
> least two servers to run a setup like that. I would not run ISA server on a
> DC.
>
>
> "gdoliver" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> >
> > I want a Windows 2003 Domain Server to play with so that I can practice
> > installing and configuring ISA Server.
> >
> > My development & support environment is a Vista Ultimate Laptop with
> > Virtual
> > PC 2007. I have several different OS virtual machines.
> >
> > I built a mini network with a Win2003 Domain Controller (with AD, DNS,
> > DHCP), a Win2003 Application Server (with SQL Srv & Oracle), and a WinXP
> > Prof
> > Client (with development SW) all on a local network.
> >
> > Now here is where I am encountering difficulty and now I'm not sure if I
> > can
> > set this up the way I want. It would be cool if I could. I have a SBS 2003
> > home domain. Let’s call it "MyDomain.local". My laptop receives its IP
> > Addr
> > (192.168.16.10) from the "MyDomain.local" DC.
> >
> > I created a new domain and forest (NewDomain.local) in a Virtual Machine
> > with 2 NICs in the controller. One NIC is the inside LAN (Local Only,
> > Static
> > IP) and the other NIC is the actual HW NIC of the laptop (internet
> > connection, DHCP).
> >
> > With the inside NIC disabled, I confirmed that I have internet access from
> > the DC VM through the outside NIC. I then enabled the inside NIC and used
> > the
> > RARA Setup Wizard to install NAT and bridge the NICs. Everything appears
> > to
> > work, but I now can't access the internet from the DC VM. If I disable the
> > inside NIC, it will work. If I re-enable it, it fails.
> >
> > If I could get internet access with both NICs enable, then I would know
> > that
> > things are working and I could then proceed to installing and practice
> > configuring ISA Server in a known good environment.
> >
> > Question: Is this failure due to the fact that both NICs are seeing non
> > routable IP addresses (192.???.??.?). In this particular configuration,
> > does
> > the outside NIC need to see a standard public IP Address for this to work?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
>
>

>
> I want a Windows 2003 Domain Server to play with so that I can practice
> installing and configuring ISA Server.
>
> My development & support environment is a Vista Ultimate Laptop with
> Virtual
> PC 2007. I have several different OS virtual machines.
>
> I built a mini network with a Win2003 Domain Controller (with AD, DNS,
> DHCP), a Win2003 Application Server (with SQL Srv & Oracle), and a WinXP
> Prof
> Client (with development SW) all on a local network.
>
> Now here is where I am encountering difficulty and now I'm not sure if I
> can
> set this up the way I want. It would be cool if I could. I have a SBS 2003
> home domain. Let’s call it "MyDomain.local". My laptop receives its IP
> Addr
> (192.168.16.10) from the "MyDomain.local" DC.
>
> I created a new domain and forest (NewDomain.local) in a Virtual Machine
> with 2 NICs in the controller. One NIC is the inside LAN (Local Only,
> Static
> IP) and the other NIC is the actual HW NIC of the laptop (internet
> connection, DHCP).
>
> With the inside NIC disabled, I confirmed that I have internet access from
> the DC VM through the outside NIC. I then enabled the inside NIC and used
> the
> RARA Setup Wizard to install NAT and bridge the NICs. Everything appears
> to
> work, but I now can't access the internet from the DC VM. If I disable the
> inside NIC, it will work. If I re-enable it, it fails.
>
> If I could get internet access with both NICs enable, then I would know
> that
> things are working and I could then proceed to installing and practice
> configuring ISA Server in a known good environment.
>
> Question: Is this failure due to the fact that both NICs are seeing non
> routable IP addresses (192.???.??.?). In this particular configuration,
> does
> the outside NIC need to see a standard public IP Address for this to work?
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>

> Not at all. The multihomed server could be be a member of your home
> network domain if you like, or it could be a member server of the new domain
> (or neither, which is what I would do). What I am saying is that the NAT
> router or ISA server should not be a DC. Multihoming a DC (except with SBS)
> is a bad move.
>
> VPC works well for emulating a domain which is isolated from the
> physical network of the host. You can run the private LAN on the virtual
> network (Local Only) and everything works fine. If you want to give this
> network Internet access you can run a multihomed vm with RRAS/NAT or ISA
> server. If the domain is running on SBS premium you can even run ISA server
> on the DC. Without SBS, running a multihomed DC causes all sorts of
> problems. See KB 292822 for an idea of the problems that can arise.
>
> The
>
>
>
> "gdoliver" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > OK, so if I understand you correctly, you are saying that I need a server
> > with it's own public internet connection outside of my SBS
> > "MyDomain.local"
> > to practice installing and configuring ISA on?
> >
> > G
> >
> > "Bill Grant" wrote:
> >
> >> That is not really a good idea. SBS is designed to run as both a DC
> >> and
> >> as a router, but the standard version of Windows Server is not. You will
> >> have all sorts of odd problems running a multihomed DC. Yo really need at
> >> least two servers to run a setup like that. I would not run ISA server on
> >> a
> >> DC.
> >>
> >>
> >> "gdoliver" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> >> news:(email address - cut out)...
> >> >
> >> > I want a Windows 2003 Domain Server to play with so that I can practice
> >> > installing and configuring ISA Server.
> >> >
> >> > My development & support environment is a Vista Ultimate Laptop with
> >> > Virtual
> >> > PC 2007. I have several different OS virtual machines.
> >> >
> >> > I built a mini network with a Win2003 Domain Controller (with AD, DNS,
> >> > DHCP), a Win2003 Application Server (with SQL Srv & Oracle), and a
> >> > WinXP
> >> > Prof
> >> > Client (with development SW) all on a local network.
> >> >
> >> > Now here is where I am encountering difficulty and now I'm not sure if
> >> > I
> >> > can
> >> > set this up the way I want. It would be cool if I could. I have a SBS
> >> > 2003
> >> > home domain. Let’s call it "MyDomain.local". My laptop receives its IP
> >> > Addr
> >> > (192.168.16.10) from the "MyDomain.local" DC.
> >> >
> >> > I created a new domain and forest (NewDomain.local) in a Virtual
> >> > Machine
> >> > with 2 NICs in the controller. One NIC is the inside LAN (Local Only,
> >> > Static
> >> > IP) and the other NIC is the actual HW NIC of the laptop (internet
> >> > connection, DHCP).
> >> >
> >> > With the inside NIC disabled, I confirmed that I have internet access
> >> > from
> >> > the DC VM through the outside NIC. I then enabled the inside NIC and
> >> > used
> >> > the
> >> > RARA Setup Wizard to install NAT and bridge the NICs. Everything
> >> > appears
> >> > to
> >> > work, but I now can't access the internet from the DC VM. If I disable
> >> > the
> >> > inside NIC, it will work. If I re-enable it, it fails.
> >> >
> >> > If I could get internet access with both NICs enable, then I would know
> >> > that
> >> > things are working and I could then proceed to installing and practice
> >> > configuring ISA Server in a known good environment.
> >> >
> >> > Question: Is this failure due to the fact that both NICs are seeing non
> >> > routable IP addresses (192.???.??.?). In this particular configuration,
> >> > does
> >> > the outside NIC need to see a standard public IP Address for this to
> >> > work?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Greg
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

> OK, so if I understand you correctly, you are saying that I need a server
> with it's own public internet connection outside of my SBS
> "MyDomain.local"
> to practice installing and configuring ISA on?
>
> G
>
> "Bill Grant" wrote:
>
>> That is not really a good idea. SBS is designed to run as both a DC
>> and
>> as a router, but the standard version of Windows Server is not. You will
>> have all sorts of odd problems running a multihomed DC. Yo really need at
>> least two servers to run a setup like that. I would not run ISA server on
>> a
>> DC.
>>
>>
>> "gdoliver" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >
>> > I want a Windows 2003 Domain Server to play with so that I can practice
>> > installing and configuring ISA Server.
>> >
>> > My development & support environment is a Vista Ultimate Laptop with
>> > Virtual
>> > PC 2007. I have several different OS virtual machines.
>> >
>> > I built a mini network with a Win2003 Domain Controller (with AD, DNS,
>> > DHCP), a Win2003 Application Server (with SQL Srv & Oracle), and a
>> > WinXP
>> > Prof
>> > Client (with development SW) all on a local network.
>> >
>> > Now here is where I am encountering difficulty and now I'm not sure if
>> > I
>> > can
>> > set this up the way I want. It would be cool if I could. I have a SBS
>> > 2003
>> > home domain. Let’s call it "MyDomain.local". My laptop receives its IP
>> > Addr
>> > (192.168.16.10) from the "MyDomain.local" DC.
>> >
>> > I created a new domain and forest (NewDomain.local) in a Virtual
>> > Machine
>> > with 2 NICs in the controller. One NIC is the inside LAN (Local Only,
>> > Static
>> > IP) and the other NIC is the actual HW NIC of the laptop (internet
>> > connection, DHCP).
>> >
>> > With the inside NIC disabled, I confirmed that I have internet access
>> > from
>> > the DC VM through the outside NIC. I then enabled the inside NIC and
>> > used
>> > the
>> > RARA Setup Wizard to install NAT and bridge the NICs. Everything
>> > appears
>> > to
>> > work, but I now can't access the internet from the DC VM. If I disable
>> > the
>> > inside NIC, it will work. If I re-enable it, it fails.
>> >
>> > If I could get internet access with both NICs enable, then I would know
>> > that
>> > things are working and I could then proceed to installing and practice
>> > configuring ISA Server in a known good environment.
>> >
>> > Question: Is this failure due to the fact that both NICs are seeing non
>> > routable IP addresses (192.???.??.?). In this particular configuration,
>> > does
>> > the outside NIC need to see a standard public IP Address for this to
>> > work?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Greg
>> >
>> >
>>
>>