Sent: 01/23/2008
From: Virtual PC bundling
Message:Thanks. Mark.
So, you mean even though our company pre-installed or provided it to our
customer as one of bundling S/W on our devices, the final license and
execution should be performed by our end user, so it is not related to our
company and we don't need any license or right from Micronsoft officially,
right?
Providing Virtual PC by our Device
Getting License or right by End-user
Is it right?
"Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:
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> "Virtual PC bundling" <Virtual PC (email address - cut out)> wrote
> in message news:(email address - cut out)...
>
> > Dears,
>
> :-)
>
> > I would like to take MS Virtual PC S/W to our company's bundling and free
> > of
> > charge S/W. How can I get the license for this?
>
> Virtual PC is free software, and can be downloaded from the Microsoft
> website.
>
> Virtual PC allows you to create virtual machines. Any software (operating
> systems or applications) which you install on a virtual machine is subject
> to the same licensing rules as would apply if you installed it on a physical
> machine.
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
>
>
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: Paul Adare <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:53:55 -0000, Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
While it is free it can't be distributed by 3rd parties.
--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Don't let the computer bugs bite!
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> "Virtual PC bundling" <Virtual PC (email address - cut out)> wrote
> in message news:(email address - cut out)...
>
>> Dears,
>
> :-)
>
>> I would like to take MS Virtual PC S/W to our company's bundling and free
>> of
>> charge S/W. How can I get the license for this?
>
> Virtual PC is free software, and can be downloaded from the Microsoft
> website.
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: Paul Adare <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:06:03 -0800, Virtual PC bundling wrote:
No, that's not right. What you need to do is to look into Microsoft's VHD
Test Drive program. You can find information here (along with an email
address to request more information):
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/partners/vhdpartners.mspx
--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Semi-conductor: A person hired to lead an orchestra before he has
graduated from director's school.
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> So, you mean even though our company pre-installed or provided it to our
> customer as one of bundling S/W on our devices, the final license and
> execution should be performed by our end user, so it is not related to our
> company and we don't need any license or right from Micronsoft officially,
> right?
>
> Providing Virtual PC by our Device
> Getting License or right by End-user
>
> Is it right?
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: Paul Adare <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:58:02 -0500, David Sanders wrote:
Which is the least of his worries. What he really wants to do is to
distribute a self-contained virtual machine which includes his software. If
that self-contained virtual machine uses a Microsoft operating system, and
nothing from the OP has indicated otherwise, then the Test Drive program is
exactly what he wants. There's really no need to bother distributing VPC
since it is a free download from Microsoft in the first place.
--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Every program is a part of some other program, and rarely fits.
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> Paul Adare wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:03:52 -0000, Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> There's really no need to make it any more complicated than it is - the
>>> licensing for a virtual machine is the same as the licensing for a physical
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> And that's all there is to it. If you built a physical machine and shipped
>>> it to your customers, what licence(s) would be required?
>>>
>>> It's exactly the same with virtual machines...
>>
>> No it isn't exactly the same. There is a VHD Test Drive program for virtual
>> machines that meets this exact need while there is no corresponding program
>> for real computers.
>>
> The VHD Test Drive has nothing to do with the OP's question. He wants
> to distribute VPC.
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Virtual PC bundling" <Virtual PC (email address - cut out)> wrote
in message news:(email address - cut out)...
:-)
Virtual PC is free software, and can be downloaded from the Microsoft
website.
Virtual PC allows you to create virtual machines. Any software (operating
systems or applications) which you install on a virtual machine is subject
to the same licensing rules as would apply if you installed it on a physical
machine.
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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> Dears,
> I would like to take MS Virtual PC S/W to our company's bundling and free
> of
> charge S/W. How can I get the license for this?
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: David Sanders <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Paul Adare wrote:
The VHD Test Drive has nothing to do with the OP's question. He wants
to distribute VPC.
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> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:03:52 -0000, Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>
>> There's really no need to make it any more complicated than it is - the
>> licensing for a virtual machine is the same as the licensing for a physical
>> machine.
>>
>> And that's all there is to it. If you built a physical machine and shipped
>> it to your customers, what licence(s) would be required?
>>
>> It's exactly the same with virtual machines...
>
> No it isn't exactly the same. There is a VHD Test Drive program for virtual
> machines that meets this exact need while there is no corresponding program
> for real computers.
>
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: "Mark Rae [MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Virtual PC bundling" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in
message news:(email address - cut out)...
There's really no need to make it any more complicated than it is - the
licensing for a virtual machine is the same as the licensing for a physical
machine.
And that's all there is to it. If you built a physical machine and shipped
it to your customers, what licence(s) would be required?
It's exactly the same with virtual machines...
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
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> So, you mean even though our company pre-installed or provided it to our
> customer as one of bundling S/W on our devices, the final license and
> execution should be performed by our end user, so it is not related to our
> company and we don't need any license or right from Micronsoft officially,
> right?
>
> Providing Virtual PC by our Device
> Getting License or right by End-user
>
> Is it right?
Sent: 01/23/2008
From: Bo Berglund <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:17:34 -0600, Paul Adare <(email address - cut out)>
wrote:
Last week I tried to get to grips with the VHD Test Drive program.....
I was referred there after asking the local Microsoft company for the
licensing implications in distributing VHD images of working XP
systems with our demo software loaded.
After spending a good deal of time going from one web site to another
and joining various programs and Live ID:s and things I had to fill in
a big questionnaire on line with some impossible-to-answer questions
only to finally end up with a message basically saying:
"You do not qualify to do this"
All I wanted to do was to get into this program so that I could
legally distribute our application as a demonstration system to our
sales people. It would be packaged in a VPC image preconfigured by us
and not disturbed by whatever extra software the sales people put on
their laptops.
I work for a 300+ people company part of a 7000+ people group and we
sell automation products with lots of SQL-Server based software.
I have been a MSDN member since 1996 or thereabouts.
Why we would not be qualified for the VHD program I don't know, but I
was really pissed off by the end of the very tedious attempt to join
in.
Not recommended.
Bo Berglund
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>On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:58:02 -0500, David Sanders wrote:
>
>> Paul Adare wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:03:52 -0000, Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's really no need to make it any more complicated than it is - the
>>>> licensing for a virtual machine is the same as the licensing for a physical
>>>> machine.
>>>>
>>>> And that's all there is to it. If you built a physical machine and shipped
>>>> it to your customers, what licence(s) would be required?
>>>>
>>>> It's exactly the same with virtual machines...
>>>
>>> No it isn't exactly the same. There is a VHD Test Drive program for virtual
>>> machines that meets this exact need while there is no corresponding program
>>> for real computers.
>>>
>> The VHD Test Drive has nothing to do with the OP's question. He wants
>> to distribute VPC.
>
>Which is the least of his worries. What he really wants to do is to
>distribute a self-contained virtual machine which includes his software. If
>that self-contained virtual machine uses a Microsoft operating system, and
>nothing from the OP has indicated otherwise, then the Test Drive program is
>exactly what he wants. There's really no need to bother distributing VPC
>since it is a free download from Microsoft in the first place.
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