>Never having tried Linux, I thought Virtual PC 2007 would give me the
>opportunity. I have tried to create Virtual Machines for Ubuntu,
>Debian-31r5 and openSUSE-10.2. I succeeded with Ubuntu and Debian. The
>openSuse installation would start and then stop after a few seconds.
>
>Ubuntu was tricky to get installed because of a video problem where the
>Virtual monitor turned to gibberish, but once installed with the help of a
>page at the Ubuntu site, you had a 1024 x 768 screen inside the Virtual PC.
>You also could browse the Internet and set up POP email. The downside was
>that I got an error every time I wanted to install additional applications.
>The installation process used just one CD iso file.
>
>So I decided to try Debian. That required a starting CD iso file and then
>once that was loaded, it went out on the Internet and got at least another
>CD worth of stuff and you got to watch all of the file names and things it
>was doing in a Command prompt type of window. But there was no problem
>viewing everything once you got to the setup part. Basically I was very
>impressed with the whole procedure. The downside was that, there is no way
>it appears to get better than 800x 600 using this in the Virtual PC
>environment. Additionally, to have email you need to do things way beyond
>what I wanted to tackle without some written instructions.
>
>Then I decided to download SuSE from Novell. I think it took around three
>hours to get the full 3.7 GB. As mentioned, that was to no avail, since I
>could never get it to install.
>
>Additionally, there is one problem I am having that occurred in both Ubuntu
>and Debian. In some sessions, when I tried to type, I would get double or
>triple the same character. It was as if I was holding down the key. Since
>it happened in both, I blame Virtual PC and not Linux.
>
>So my question is: Has anyone had a better experience with the above three
>Linux distributions that they can share to help me to get Ubuntu able to add
>applications, Debian to run in a resolution higher than 800x600 or to just
>install SuSE?
>

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:48:30 -0400, "William LaMartin"
>
>
>
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
> >Never having tried Linux, I thought Virtual PC 2007 would give me the
> >opportunity. I have tried to create Virtual Machines for Ubuntu,
> >Debian-31r5 and openSUSE-10.2. I succeeded with Ubuntu and Debian. The
> >openSuse installation would start and then stop after a few seconds.
>
> >Ubuntu was tricky to get installed because of a video problem where the
> >Virtual monitor turned to gibberish, but once installed with the help of a
> >page at the Ubuntu site, you had a 1024 x 768 screen inside the Virtual PC.
> >You also could browse the Internet and set up POP email. The downside was
> >that I got an error every time I wanted to install additional applications.
> >The installation process used just one CD iso file.
>
> >So I decided to try Debian. That required a starting CD iso file and then
> >once that was loaded, it went out on the Internet and got at least another
> >CD worth of stuff and you got to watch all of the file names and things it
> >was doing in a Command prompt type of window. But there was no problem
> >viewing everything once you got to the setup part. Basically I was very
> >impressed with the whole procedure. The downside was that, there is no way
> >it appears to get better than 800x 600 using this in the Virtual PC
> >environment. Additionally, to have email you need to do things way beyond
> >what I wanted to tackle without some written instructions.
>
> >Then I decided to download SuSE from Novell. I think it took around three
> >hours to get the full 3.7 GB. As mentioned, that was to no avail, since I
> >could never get it to install.
>
> >Additionally, there is one problem I am having that occurred in both Ubuntu
> >and Debian. In some sessions, when I tried to type, I would get double or
> >triple the same character. It was as if I was holding down the key. Since
> >it happened in both, I blame Virtual PC and not Linux.
>
> >So my question is: Has anyone had a better experience with the above three
> >Linux distributions that they can share to help me to get Ubuntu able to add
> >applications, Debian to run in a resolution higher than 800x600 or to just
> >install SuSE?
>
> There should be work-arounds posted previously here or athttp://vpc.visualwin.com/index.aspx
>
> A lot of newer Linux distros (like Ubuntu) use 24bit color, which VPC
> doesn't support. There are work-arounds for modifying the setup to
> prevent it from using 24bit color (safe mode still uses 24bit color)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVPhttp://vpc.essjae.com/

>Well, I don't plan on spending any money to try out Linux, and I believe
>VMware costs a bit less than $200 for the desktop. So, I guess you get what
>you pay for. I paid nothing for Virtual PC, and I assume it actually works
>with Windows operating systems and plan to eventually test that. But for
>Linux--at least on the three distributions I tried, it is not so hot.
>
>Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need one
>that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>

> Well, I don't plan on spending any money to try out Linux, and I believe
> VMware costs a bit less than $200 for the desktop. So, I guess you get what
> you pay for. I paid nothing for Virtual PC, and I assume it actually works
> with Windows operating systems and plan to eventually test that. But for
> Linux--at least on the three distributions I tried, it is not so hot.
>
> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need one
> that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.

> And use virtualization software that actually is developed and
> supported to run Linux, like Vmware.
>

> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
> Well, I don't plan on spending any money to try out Linux, and I believe
> VMware costs a bit less than $200 for the desktop. So, I guess you get
> what you pay for. I paid nothing for Virtual PC, and I assume it actually
> works with Windows operating systems and plan to eventually test that. But
> for Linux--at least on the three distributions I tried, it is not so hot.
>
> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>
>
>> And use virtualization software that actually is developed and
>> supported to run Linux, like Vmware.
>>
>
>

> William LaMartin wrote:
>> Well, I don't plan on spending any money to try out Linux, and I believe
>> VMware costs a bit less than $200 for the desktop. So, I guess you get
>> what you pay for. I paid nothing for Virtual PC, and I assume it
>> actually works with Windows operating systems and plan to eventually test
>> that. But for Linux--at least on the three distributions I tried, it is
>> not so hot.
>>
>> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
>> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>
> You have a couple of options:
>
> 1. Is VMware Server for Windows, which despite it's name runs fine on
> desktop OS's with a decent interface.
>
> 2. Download LiveCD versions of your Linux distributions: Ubuntu has one,
> several others do to. With LiveCD's you reboot and run Linux completely
> off a CD/DVD and it does NOT touch your hard drive. When you are done
> evaluting Linux you simply reboot, eject your cd/dvd and you're back to
> your old system.

> "William LaMartin" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>
>> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
>> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>
> I have both Ubuntu 6.10 and SuSE 10.0 as virtual guests both running at
> 1152*864. The Virtual Server Additions also work on SuSE 10.0, but not any
> subsequent version...
>

>> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
>> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>
> Just use the VESA driver instead of the S3 Trio driver and you should be
> able to get that res and more. Make sure you set the color depth to 16
> bit too.
>
> Microsoft doesn't support Linux on VPC, but it can run it acceptably.
>
> --
> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>
>
>
> "William LaMartin" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Well, I don't plan on spending any money to try out Linux, and I believe
>> VMware costs a bit less than $200 for the desktop. So, I guess you get
>> what you pay for. I paid nothing for Virtual PC, and I assume it
>> actually works with Windows operating systems and plan to eventually test
>> that. But for Linux--at least on the three distributions I tried, it is
>> not so hot.
>>
>> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
>> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>>
>>
>>> And use virtualization software that actually is developed and
>>> supported to run Linux, like Vmware.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:20:58 -0400, "William LaMartin"
>
> Did you read my post? There are solutions available at the website I
> posted previously, as well as links previously posted in this
> newsgroup.
>
> There are 1069 *nix distros that have been tested and reported to work
> in VPC, see http://vpc.visualwin.com
>
> Ubunt has a help page for VPC:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureUbuntuForMicrosoftVirtualPC2004
>
> You should be able to find similar solutions for SuSe and Debian in
> this newsgroup, the website I posted above, or via Google.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/

> Using the VESA driver I can get no more than 800x600 out of Debian. I
> don't recall anything about color depth in the setup. How do I change
> that?
>
> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
>>> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>>
>> Just use the VESA driver instead of the S3 Trio driver and you should be
>> able to get that res and more. Make sure you set the color depth to 16
>> bit too.
>>
>> Microsoft doesn't support Linux on VPC, but it can run it acceptably.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>>
>>
>>
>> "William LaMartin" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Well, I don't plan on spending any money to try out Linux, and I believe
>>> VMware costs a bit less than $200 for the desktop. So, I guess you get
>>> what you pay for. I paid nothing for Virtual PC, and I assume it
>>> actually works with Windows operating systems and plan to eventually
>>> test that. But for Linux--at least on the three distributions I tried,
>>> it is not so hot.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
>>> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.
>>>
>>>
>>>> And use virtualization software that actually is developed and
>>>> supported to run Linux, like Vmware.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

> Perhaps someone has another flavor of Linux I could try. I really need
> one that will provide at least a 1024x768 resolution.

>I want more than the live CD's because I would like to try to modify the Linux setup from within Virtual PC. For example to
>add applications.

> I just finished downloading the five CD images for SuSE 10.0 and doing the
>installation. The installation seemed to go very well, and at some point it
>displayed that is was using the VESA driver at 16 bit color and 800x600
>resolution. There was a place to click to change this, and I changed the
>resolution to 1024x768.
>
>However, when Linux opened in Virtual PC it was only 800x600, and in the
>utility program to change screen resolutions, 800x600 was the one available.
>And at 800x600, I couldn't even see the bottom part of the screen to set up
>the evolution email program.
>
>I tried to go into the x configuration (which I know next to nothing about)
>and set the resolution. But the password I set up on installation was
>rejected, so that got nowhere.
>
>Of the three virtual machines I have tried to create for Linux
>distributions, only the Ubuntu one gave me more than 800x600 as a final
>result.

> It all depends on the distribution, some let you choose it to begin with,
> others you have to change the X configuration. You really should be able
> to get better than 800x600 with the VESA driver.
>
> --
> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>
>

> I just finished downloading the five CD images for SuSE 10.0 and doing the
> installation. The installation seemed to go very well, and at some point
> it displayed that is was using the VESA driver at 16 bit color and 800x600
> resolution. There was a place to click to change this, and I changed the
> resolution to 1024x768.
>
> However, when Linux opened in Virtual PC it was only 800x600, and in the
> utility program to change screen resolutions, 800x600 was the one
> available. And at 800x600, I couldn't even see the bottom part of the
> screen to set up the evolution email program.
>
> I tried to go into the x configuration (which I know next to nothing
> about) and set the resolution. But the password I set up on installation
> was rejected, so that got nowhere.
>
> Of the three virtual machines I have tried to create for Linux
> distributions, only the Ubuntu one gave me more than 800x600 as a final
> result.
>
>
> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> It all depends on the distribution, some let you choose it to begin with,
>> others you have to change the X configuration. You really should be able
>> to get better than 800x600 with the VESA driver.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>>
>>
>

> You should ask on a SUSE forum how to change the X configuration, they
> know the product better than I do. I do know VPC is capable of more. (I
> mainly use Ubuntu when I'm playing with Linux)
>
> --
> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>

> Never having tried Linux, I thought Virtual PC 2007 would give me the
> opportunity. I have tried to create Virtual Machines for Ubuntu,
> Debian-31r5 and openSUSE-10.2. I succeeded with Ubuntu and Debian. The
> openSuse installation would start and then stop after a few seconds.
>
> Ubuntu was tricky to get installed because of a video problem where the
> Virtual monitor turned to gibberish, but once installed with the help of a
> page at the Ubuntu site, you had a 1024 x 768 screen inside the Virtual PC.
> You also could browse the Internet and set up POP email. The downside was
> that I got an error every time I wanted to install additional applications.
> The installation process used just one CD iso file.
>
> So I decided to try Debian. That required a starting CD iso file and then
> once that was loaded, it went out on the Internet and got at least another
> CD worth of stuff and you got to watch all of the file names and things it
> was doing in a Command prompt type of window. But there was no problem
> viewing everything once you got to the setup part. Basically I was very
> impressed with the whole procedure. The downside was that, there is no way
> it appears to get better than 800x 600 using this in the Virtual PC
> environment. Additionally, to have email you need to do things way beyond
> what I wanted to tackle without some written instructions.
>
> Then I decided to download SuSE from Novell. I think it took around three
> hours to get the full 3.7 GB. As mentioned, that was to no avail, since I
> could never get it to install.
>
> Additionally, there is one problem I am having that occurred in both Ubuntu
> and Debian. In some sessions, when I tried to type, I would get double or
> triple the same character. It was as if I was holding down the key. Since
> it happened in both, I blame Virtual PC and not Linux.
>
> So my question is: Has anyone had a better experience with the above three
> Linux distributions that they can share to help me to get Ubuntu able to add
> applications, Debian to run in a resolution higher than 800x600 or to just
> install SuSE?
>