Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "Vinod Atal [MSFT]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:This is a bug then in VPC 2007.
We have this issue reported. Have you installed additions?
"rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Just installed Vista Ultimate RTM in VPC 2007 running on Vista Ultimate
> RTM (host) and using Right-Alt-Enter to go full screen. The VPC window
> goes away, and I'm left with the VPC console still showing the running
> VPC, but the main screen is the host. It's probably something simple, but
> I can't seem to find the full screen. I'm running on a docked laptop with
> a single LCD attached.
>
> The worst part is that I can't get the window back without closing the
> VPC, starting it up fresh and clicking on the boot window to deselect full
> screen mode.
>
> Am i doing something wrong when i go to full screen? Where's the window?
>
> Any guidance greatly appreciate.
>
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Full Vista sound is supported on Vista vm's with the adds supplied with VPC
2007 beta.
fwiw, the terminology for "VPC's" as you are using the term is "virtual
machines". VPC refers to the application. ;)
"rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Yes, I have installed additions. And I just tested with a Windows XP Pro
> VPC and it works fine with that operating system.
>
> The other thing I noticed is that audio in the Vista VPC is useless on my
> system - it stutters and breaks up consistently. Again, this problem is
> not evident in the Windows XP Pro VPC. I expect these will be cleared up
> when VPC 2007 is released.
>
> Other than that - the performance of these VPCs is incredible - much
> faster than the equivalent VMWare VPCs that I've been using. Good job!
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "rock603" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Yes, I have installed additions. And I just tested with a Windows XP Pro VPC
and it works fine with that operating system.
The other thing I noticed is that audio in the Vista VPC is useless on my
system - it stutters and breaks up consistently. Again, this problem is not
evident in the Windows XP Pro VPC. I expect these will be cleared up when
VPC 2007 is released.
Other than that - the performance of these VPCs is incredible - much faster
than the equivalent VMWare VPCs that I've been using. Good job!
"Vinod Atal [MSFT]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> This is a bug then in VPC 2007.
> We have this issue reported. Have you installed additions?
>
> "rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Just installed Vista Ultimate RTM in VPC 2007 running on Vista Ultimate
>> RTM (host) and using Right-Alt-Enter to go full screen. The VPC window
>> goes away, and I'm left with the VPC console still showing the running
>> VPC, but the main screen is the host. It's probably something simple, but
>> I can't seem to find the full screen. I'm running on a docked laptop with
>> a single LCD attached.
>>
>> The worst part is that I can't get the window back without closing the
>> VPC, starting it up fresh and clicking on the boot window to deselect
>> full screen mode.
>>
>> Am i doing something wrong when i go to full screen? Where's the window?
>>
>> Any guidance greatly appreciate.
>>
>>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:29:48 +1100, "Bill Grant"
<not.available@online> wrote:
It may be related to the "Vista" sound card that's been added to VPC.
It's possible that it hasn't been fully optimized yet.
VPC2007 is still a beta product. Updated VM Additions may resolve
this when it's released.
Have you guys filed bugs through connect for the sound?
--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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> I agree with you about sound in Vista on Vista with the VPC 2007 beta.
>Running a Vista guest on an XP host the sound is fine. But running Vista
>guest on a Vista host, the sound is choppy (even though the sound on the
>host is fine). Not sure why, but it certainly happens for me.
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:What about the sound. btw, XP and Ubuntu vm's use the SoundBlaster 16
emulated card but Vista vm's do not. There is a different provision for
sound because Vista does not support an ISA bus and the SB emulation is ISA.
"rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Good news - the full screen is now working. Not sure what caused the
> original issue, but I've rebooted the host several times today and ran
> the XP VM in full screen and just tried the Vista VM and it works fine.
> Sorry for the drill - but perhaps a reboot after install was necessary.
>
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Or just validate one of the one's already filed. Use the search and
"sound".
"Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Have you turned in a bug on connect for the sound problem?
>
> I think they're already aware of the problem, but it's a good idea to turn
> in a bug so they can tell how many are effected...
>
> --
> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "rock603" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Oops - sorry about the naming! :)
Okay - so I understand that it is *supposed* to work, but what I'm saying is
that audio on a Vista Ultimate RTM guest virtual machine on top of Vista
Ultimate RTM host is not working on this machine. i would attach an audio
clip, but if you can imagine what a scratchy record sounds like, you'd get
the idea.
I've also installed Windows XP and Ubuntu in VPC 2007, and the audio works
fine in both of those systems. Are there any particular settings I need to
be aware of? The adds are version 13.724 (at least that's what comes up
during the install).
"Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Full Vista sound is supported on Vista vm's with the adds supplied with
> VPC 2007 beta.
>
> fwiw, the terminology for "VPC's" as you are using the term is "virtual
> machines". VPC refers to the application. ;)
>
> "rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Yes, I have installed additions. And I just tested with a Windows XP Pro
>> VPC and it works fine with that operating system.
>>
>> The other thing I noticed is that audio in the Vista VPC is useless on my
>> system - it stutters and breaks up consistently. Again, this problem is
>> not evident in the Windows XP Pro VPC. I expect these will be cleared up
>> when VPC 2007 is released.
>>
>> Other than that - the performance of these VPCs is incredible - much
>> faster than the equivalent VMWare VPCs that I've been using. Good job!
>>
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "rock603" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Good news - the full screen is now working. Not sure what caused the
original issue, but I've rebooted the host several times today and ran the
XP VM in full screen and just tried the Vista VM and it works fine. Sorry
for the drill - but perhaps a reboot after install was necessary.
"rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> Just installed Vista Ultimate RTM in VPC 2007 running on Vista Ultimate
> RTM (host) and using Right-Alt-Enter to go full screen. The VPC window
> goes away, and I'm left with the VPC console still showing the running
> VPC, but the main screen is the host. It's probably something simple, but
> I can't seem to find the full screen. I'm running on a docked laptop with
> a single LCD attached.
>
> The worst part is that I can't get the window back without closing the
> VPC, starting it up fresh and clicking on the boot window to deselect full
> screen mode.
>
> Am i doing something wrong when i go to full screen? Where's the window?
>
> Any guidance greatly appreciate.
>
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "rock603" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:No difference in sound, unfortunately.
Are there any workarounds? I figured it might be a local driver issue, and
I've got the latest SigmaTel High Def drivers from Dell. They work fine on
the host, but still coming through scratchy in the VM.
"Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> What about the sound. btw, XP and Ubuntu vm's use the SoundBlaster 16
> emulated card but Vista vm's do not. There is a different provision for
> sound because Vista does not support an ISA bus and the SB emulation is
> ISA.
>
> "rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Good news - the full screen is now working. Not sure what caused the
>> original issue, but I've rebooted the host several times today and ran
>> the XP VM in full screen and just tried the Vista VM and it works fine.
>> Sorry for the drill - but perhaps a reboot after install was necessary.
>>
>>
>
Sent: 12/18/2006
From: "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Have you turned in a bug on connect for the sound problem?
I think they're already aware of the problem, but it's a good idea to turn
in a bug so they can tell how many are effected...
--
Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
"rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> No difference in sound, unfortunately.
>
> Are there any workarounds? I figured it might be a local driver issue, and
> I've got the latest SigmaTel High Def drivers from Dell. They work fine on
> the host, but still coming through scratchy in the VM.
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> What about the sound. btw, XP and Ubuntu vm's use the SoundBlaster 16
>> emulated card but Vista vm's do not. There is a different provision for
>> sound because Vista does not support an ISA bus and the SB emulation is
>> ISA.
>>
>> "rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Good news - the full screen is now working. Not sure what caused the
>>> original issue, but I've rebooted the host several times today and ran
>>> the XP VM in full screen and just tried the Vista VM and it works fine.
>>> Sorry for the drill - but perhaps a reboot after install was necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Sent: 12/19/2006
From: "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Validating doesn't push hard enough...
--
Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
"Colin Barnhorst" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> Or just validate one of the one's already filed. Use the search and
> "sound".
>
> "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Have you turned in a bug on connect for the sound problem?
>>
>> I think they're already aware of the problem, but it's a good idea to
>> turn in a bug so they can tell how many are effected...
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>>
>>
>
Sent: 12/19/2006
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message: I agree with you about sound in Vista on Vista with the VPC 2007 beta.
Running a Vista guest on an XP host the sound is fine. But running Vista
guest on a Vista host, the sound is choppy (even though the sound on the
host is fine). Not sure why, but it certainly happens for me.
"rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> Good news - the full screen is now working. Not sure what caused the
> original issue, but I've rebooted the host several times today and ran
> the XP VM in full screen and just tried the Vista VM and it works fine.
> Sorry for the drill - but perhaps a reboot after install was necessary.
>
>
> "rock603" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Just installed Vista Ultimate RTM in VPC 2007 running on Vista Ultimate
>> RTM (host) and using Right-Alt-Enter to go full screen. The VPC window
>> goes away, and I'm left with the VPC console still showing the running
>> VPC, but the main screen is the host. It's probably something simple, but
>> I can't seem to find the full screen. I'm running on a docked laptop with
>> a single LCD attached.
>>
>> The worst part is that I can't get the window back without closing the
>> VPC, starting it up fresh and clicking on the boot window to deselect
>> full screen mode.
>>
>> Am i doing something wrong when i go to full screen? Where's the window?
>>
>> Any guidance greatly appreciate.
>>
>>
>
Sent: 12/19/2006
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message: ID 242980 seems to cover it. Resolved as a known issue on Vista host,
fixed in release version.
"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:29:48 +1100, "Bill Grant"
> <not.available@online> wrote:
>
>> I agree with you about sound in Vista on Vista with the VPC 2007 beta.
>>Running a Vista guest on an XP host the sound is fine. But running Vista
>>guest on a Vista host, the sound is choppy (even though the sound on the
>>host is fine). Not sure why, but it certainly happens for me.
>>
>
> It may be related to the "Vista" sound card that's been added to VPC.
> It's possible that it hasn't been fully optimized yet.
>
> VPC2007 is still a beta product. Updated VM Additions may resolve
> this when it's released.
>
> Have you guys filed bugs through connect for the sound?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
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