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Three Questions - Installing MS-DOS, Mouse Problems, WinImage ProblemsSource: microsoft.public.virtualpc Sent: 09/18/2006 From: (email address - cut out) Message:Hi,
I'm currently using the free version of Virtual PC that was released by
Microsoft a few weeks back and I've found it to be really useful. Like
others, I use it to look at a bunch of vintage operating systems - gee,
Windows 1.01 - no future for that company. :-P However, using such
vintage operating systems, I've run into some problems. Furthermore,
when using more modern operating systems such as Windows 95 or Windows
98, I've run into some mouse issues. I'll explain below and I would
appreciate it if anyone could help me out here.
1. Back in the day, I used a Commodore 64. Around 1988, I upgraded to
a Commodore Amiga. Around 1992, I got a 486 and played this thing
called 'Wolfenstein 3-D'. Wow. Anyway, history lesson over. I
realize that the more recent versions of MS-DOS include a SETUP program
which will FDISK the hard drive and all of that. However, with MS-DOS
versions that don't have an INSTALL or SETUP program, how do I get them
installed onto the hard disk? I would assume I would FDISK and then
FORMAT C: but what do I do after that? Or are the older versions of
MS-DOS simply not capable of installing to hard drives, e.g. being
bootable?
2. The two 'recent' operating systems I have running under Virtual PC
are Windows 95 and Windows 98. For both machines, when fooling around
in them, I have some mouse lag. I mean, I can control t he mouse and
all that, but when I move it around in the Virtual PC constantly, it
lags around a bit and is generally very slow. I've tried using both
the touchpad on my laptop and a USB optical mouse I use - both have the
same problems. I have tried to install the Virtual Machine Additions,
but this does not seem to have a meaningful effect regarding mouse
performance. I realize that if I were running DOS and had mouse
problems, I could run MEMMAKER to free up some memory. However, in
Windows 95 and Windows 98, such a program does not seem to exist.
3. Anyway, the last problem I'm having is with WinImage. I realize
that under boot sector properties, I can set the disk image to be a
NT/2K/XP, 95/98, DOS 6.22 or Vista boot disc/disk but for the older
versions of MS-DOS such as MS-DOS 3.3, how would I make the disk
bootable? I've also noticed that the older MS-DOS WinImage files I
have are bootable in correct floppy form (320 KB, 360 KB, 720 KB, 1.44
MB, that sort of thing) but if I have something such as a 20 KB
WinImage DOS disk that is currently bootable and I convert it to a 1.44
MB floppy disk image, the file loses it's 'bootability'. Any idea as
to how I would go about setting boot sector properties under older
versions of MS-DOS in WinImage?
Thanks in advance
Matt
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Sent: 09/18/2006 From: (email address - cut out) Message:Pentium M 2.0 GHz
2 GB RAM
GeForce 7800 GTX
Windows XP Home Edition (Running SP2)
Just tried the laptop hotfix, it fixed the mouse issue. Thanks very
much! :o)
Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
Show quoted text > You left out the part about your computer. Please give us an idea of what
> it is. If it is a laptop, did you apply the laptop hotfix from the folder
> that is part of the download? I assume that you have installed the virtual
> machine additions on each guest.
Sent: 09/18/2006 From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)> Message:On 18 Sep 2006 16:00:41 -0700, (email address - cut out) wrote:
If you're missing the FDISK, it's probably an upgrade version and not
a full version. All the full versions of DOS I've owned have had the
necessary tools for partitioning and formatting.
What do you mean you "tried to install the VM Additions"? The VMA
have definite performance enhancers for a VM, while not specific to
the mouse, they will increase performance overall.
But, from the limited info above, I'd say you have a notebook
computer. You should take a look at the numerous threads, KBs, and
fixed for notebooks and the issues related to them. There is one
hotfix included with the VPC SP1 download.
When you create an image from a disk using WinImage, it will duplicate
the disk and if the physical disk is bootable, the VFD will also. Make
sure that when you're converting you do not convert to a compressed
file type, use only the uncompressed, i.e. VFD. You may want to go
directly to forum.winimage.com for additional support.
--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
Show quoted text >Hi,
>
>I'm currently using the free version of Virtual PC that was released by
>Microsoft a few weeks back and I've found it to be really useful. Like
>others, I use it to look at a bunch of vintage operating systems - gee,
>Windows 1.01 - no future for that company. :-P However, using such
>vintage operating systems, I've run into some problems. Furthermore,
>when using more modern operating systems such as Windows 95 or Windows
>98, I've run into some mouse issues. I'll explain below and I would
>appreciate it if anyone could help me out here.
>
>1. Back in the day, I used a Commodore 64. Around 1988, I upgraded to
>a Commodore Amiga. Around 1992, I got a 486 and played this thing
>called 'Wolfenstein 3-D'. Wow. Anyway, history lesson over. I
>realize that the more recent versions of MS-DOS include a SETUP program
>which will FDISK the hard drive and all of that. However, with MS-DOS
>versions that don't have an INSTALL or SETUP program, how do I get them
>installed onto the hard disk? I would assume I would FDISK and then
>FORMAT C: but what do I do after that? Or are the older versions of
>MS-DOS simply not capable of installing to hard drives, e.g. being
>bootable?
>
>2. The two 'recent' operating systems I have running under Virtual PC
>are Windows 95 and Windows 98. For both machines, when fooling around
>in them, I have some mouse lag. I mean, I can control t he mouse and
>all that, but when I move it around in the Virtual PC constantly, it
>lags around a bit and is generally very slow. I've tried using both
>the touchpad on my laptop and a USB optical mouse I use - both have the
>same problems. I have tried to install the Virtual Machine Additions,
>but this does not seem to have a meaningful effect regarding mouse
>performance. I realize that if I were running DOS and had mouse
>problems, I could run MEMMAKER to free up some memory. However, in
>Windows 95 and Windows 98, such a program does not seem to exist.
>
>3. Anyway, the last problem I'm having is with WinImage. I realize
>that under boot sector properties, I can set the disk image to be a
>NT/2K/XP, 95/98, DOS 6.22 or Vista boot disc/disk but for the older
>versions of MS-DOS such as MS-DOS 3.3, how would I make the disk
>bootable? I've also noticed that the older MS-DOS WinImage files I
>have are bootable in correct floppy form (320 KB, 360 KB, 720 KB, 1.44
>MB, that sort of thing) but if I have something such as a 20 KB
>WinImage DOS disk that is currently bootable and I convert it to a 1.44
>MB floppy disk image, the file loses it's 'bootability'. Any idea as
>to how I would go about setting boot sector properties under older
>versions of MS-DOS in WinImage?
Sent: 09/18/2006 From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> Message:You left out the part about your computer. Please give us an idea of what
it is. If it is a laptop, did you apply the laptop hotfix from the folder
that is part of the download? I assume that you have installed the virtual
machine additions on each guest.
<(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text > Hi,
>
> I'm currently using the free version of Virtual PC that was released by
> Microsoft a few weeks back and I've found it to be really useful. Like
> others, I use it to look at a bunch of vintage operating systems - gee,
> Windows 1.01 - no future for that company. :-P However, using such
> vintage operating systems, I've run into some problems. Furthermore,
> when using more modern operating systems such as Windows 95 or Windows
> 98, I've run into some mouse issues. I'll explain below and I would
> appreciate it if anyone could help me out here.
>
> 1. Back in the day, I used a Commodore 64. Around 1988, I upgraded to
> a Commodore Amiga. Around 1992, I got a 486 and played this thing
> called 'Wolfenstein 3-D'. Wow. Anyway, history lesson over. I
> realize that the more recent versions of MS-DOS include a SETUP program
> which will FDISK the hard drive and all of that. However, with MS-DOS
> versions that don't have an INSTALL or SETUP program, how do I get them
> installed onto the hard disk? I would assume I would FDISK and then
> FORMAT C: but what do I do after that? Or are the older versions of
> MS-DOS simply not capable of installing to hard drives, e.g. being
> bootable?
>
> 2. The two 'recent' operating systems I have running under Virtual PC
> are Windows 95 and Windows 98. For both machines, when fooling around
> in them, I have some mouse lag. I mean, I can control t he mouse and
> all that, but when I move it around in the Virtual PC constantly, it
> lags around a bit and is generally very slow. I've tried using both
> the touchpad on my laptop and a USB optical mouse I use - both have the
> same problems. I have tried to install the Virtual Machine Additions,
> but this does not seem to have a meaningful effect regarding mouse
> performance. I realize that if I were running DOS and had mouse
> problems, I could run MEMMAKER to free up some memory. However, in
> Windows 95 and Windows 98, such a program does not seem to exist.
>
> 3. Anyway, the last problem I'm having is with WinImage. I realize
> that under boot sector properties, I can set the disk image to be a
> NT/2K/XP, 95/98, DOS 6.22 or Vista boot disc/disk but for the older
> versions of MS-DOS such as MS-DOS 3.3, how would I make the disk
> bootable? I've also noticed that the older MS-DOS WinImage files I
> have are bootable in correct floppy form (320 KB, 360 KB, 720 KB, 1.44
> MB, that sort of thing) but if I have something such as a 20 KB
> WinImage DOS disk that is currently bootable and I convert it to a 1.44
> MB floppy disk image, the file loses it's 'bootability'. Any idea as
> to how I would go about setting boot sector properties under older
> versions of MS-DOS in WinImage?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Matt
>
Sent: 09/18/2006 From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> Message:You're welcome.
<(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Show quoted text > Pentium M 2.0 GHz
> 2 GB RAM
> GeForce 7800 GTX
> Windows XP Home Edition (Running SP2)
>
> Just tried the laptop hotfix, it fixed the mouse issue. Thanks very
> much! :o)
>
> Colin Barnhorst (remove) wrote:
>> You left out the part about your computer. Please give us an idea of
>> what
>> it is. If it is a laptop, did you apply the laptop hotfix from the
>> folder
>> that is part of the download? I assume that you have installed the
>> virtual
>> machine additions on each guest.
>
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