> Hi all,
> I've got Scientific Linux 3.05 (with recent 2.4 kernel) running under
> VPC and virtual pc server. It works quite well (based on Red Hat). I
> can run programs, poke around.
>
> I run some simple science programs (:-)) and it works fine. When I
> load up a big one, however, I get the dreaded machine must be reset,
> error #13 dialog box. I get this even when I'm running from the
> text-only console of the machine.
>
> /var/log/messages contains nothing of interest -- not even a single
> entry gets generated before the machine does something nasty.
>
> This also happens both with and with out the new Linux machine
> additions from microsoft.
>
> The only thing left that I can try out is that I don't have enough
> swap space, but I would have expected some warning messages in the logs
> about that if that were the case.
>
> My general impression from reading this group is that I should give
> up -- these things are impossible to track down. This is, of course,
> frustrating because it works on a raw Linux box. I suppose one obvious
> thing to do to see if this is the VM implementation or a real problem
> with the linux install is to try out VMWare and compare what happens.
> I'll do that at some point soon if the swap space thing dosen't get
> anywhere. Any help or advice would be most welcome, however!
>
> Cheers,
> Gordon.
>

> Can you subscribe to a mail list for Scienfic Linux and find out what error
> 13 is? Since it is based on RH you might also be able to find out from an
> RH mail list.
>
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > Hi all,
> > I've got Scientific Linux 3.05 (with recent 2.4 kernel) running under
> > VPC and virtual pc server. It works quite well (based on Red Hat). I
> > can run programs, poke around.
> >
> > I run some simple science programs (:-)) and it works fine. When I
> > load up a big one, however, I get the dreaded machine must be reset,
> > error #13 dialog box. I get this even when I'm running from the
> > text-only console of the machine.
> >
> > /var/log/messages contains nothing of interest -- not even a single
> > entry gets generated before the machine does something nasty.
> >
> > This also happens both with and with out the new Linux machine
> > additions from microsoft.
> >
> > The only thing left that I can try out is that I don't have enough
> > swap space, but I would have expected some warning messages in the logs
> > about that if that were the case.
> >
> > My general impression from reading this group is that I should give
> > up -- these things are impossible to track down. This is, of course,
> > frustrating because it works on a raw Linux box. I suppose one obvious
> > thing to do to see if this is the VM implementation or a real problem
> > with the linux install is to try out VMWare and compare what happens.
> > I'll do that at some point soon if the swap space thing dosen't get
> > anywhere. Any help or advice would be most welcome, however!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gordon.
> >

>Hi,
> Ops -- sorry -- error 13 isn't in the RH OS. It is an error from the
>virtual machine environent. Specifically, when I run a certian program
>a dialog box (in windows, from VirtualPC) pops up and displays: "An
>internal vritual machine error (13) has occured. The virtual machine
>will reset now."
>
> I watched the /var/log/messages carefully as this crash happened.
>There isn't a peep out of the kernel that I can see. It is repeatable,
>in the exact same spot of the program I run every time; I've not got
>the debug version of the program (a 8 gig download!) so I can't tell
>you what the program is doing at the time. And, I noticed when I run on
>the linux computers up at CERN (where this works just fine) their
>kernel version is identical to the one I'm using in my version of Sci
>Linux.
>
> Cheers,
> Gordon.
>

> On 12 Sep 2006 20:37:03 -0700, (email address - cut out) wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> > Ops -- sorry -- error 13 isn't in the RH OS. It is an error from the
> >virtual machine environent. Specifically, when I run a certian program
> >a dialog box (in windows, from VirtualPC) pops up and displays: "An
> >internal vritual machine error (13) has occured. The virtual machine
> >will reset now."
> >
> > I watched the /var/log/messages carefully as this crash happened.
> >There isn't a peep out of the kernel that I can see. It is repeatable,
> >in the exact same spot of the program I run every time; I've not got
> >the debug version of the program (a 8 gig download!) so I can't tell
> >you what the program is doing at the time. And, I noticed when I run on
> >the linux computers up at CERN (where this works just fine) their
> >kernel version is identical to the one I'm using in my version of Sci
> >Linux.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gordon.
> >
>
> Does the program try to change the video mode? IIRC, that error is
> usually related to video, Xwindows, and/or XORG stuff.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

> Hi Steve,
> Thanks. As far as I know, it does not. I've run it from the text mode
> window on Linux (ALT-F8) and I can still get the VM to crash. There
> should be nothing happening with the video in that case.
>
> As I mentioned, I can reproduce it and I have access to all the
> soruce code. I just haven't had the energy to try and track down what
> system call is being made that causes the reset to happen.
>
> BTW, I've used Linux tools to change the video quite a bit -- and
> I've never been able to cause this sort of crash. But I'm sure I've not
> tried every single mode! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Gordon.
>
> Steve Jain wrote:
> > On 12 Sep 2006 20:37:03 -0700, (email address - cut out) wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > > Ops -- sorry -- error 13 isn't in the RH OS. It is an error from the
> > >virtual machine environent. Specifically, when I run a certian program
> > >a dialog box (in windows, from VirtualPC) pops up and displays: "An
> > >internal vritual machine error (13) has occured. The virtual machine
> > >will reset now."
> > >
> > > I watched the /var/log/messages carefully as this crash happened.
> > >There isn't a peep out of the kernel that I can see. It is repeatable,
> > >in the exact same spot of the program I run every time; I've not got
> > >the debug version of the program (a 8 gig download!) so I can't tell
> > >you what the program is doing at the time. And, I noticed when I run on
> > >the linux computers up at CERN (where this works just fine) their
> > >kernel version is identical to the one I'm using in my version of Sci
> > >Linux.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Gordon.
> > >
> >
> > Does the program try to change the video mode? IIRC, that error is
> > usually related to video, Xwindows, and/or XORG stuff.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> > http://vpc.essjae.com/
> > I do not work for Microsoft.

> Hi,
> I was finally able to get back to this tonight. First off, the crash
> does not happen in VMWare -- same install, same config, and it runs. So
> this is something pecular to VirtualPC.
>
> Second, I've been doing my best to isolate the code that causes this
> problem, but I've not succeeded yet. Chalk it up to me not being
> familiar enough with this build system.
>
> I'll post more as I learn it.
>
> Cheers,
> Gordon.
>
> (email address - cut out) wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> > Thanks. As far as I know, it does not. I've run it from the text mode
> > window on Linux (ALT-F8) and I can still get the VM to crash. There
> > should be nothing happening with the video in that case.
> >
> > As I mentioned, I can reproduce it and I have access to all the
> > soruce code. I just haven't had the energy to try and track down what
> > system call is being made that causes the reset to happen.
> >
> > BTW, I've used Linux tools to change the video quite a bit -- and
> > I've never been able to cause this sort of crash. But I'm sure I've not
> > tried every single mode! :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Gordon.
> >
> > Steve Jain wrote:
> > > On 12 Sep 2006 20:37:03 -0700, (email address - cut out) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > > Ops -- sorry -- error 13 isn't in the RH OS. It is an error from the
> > > >virtual machine environent. Specifically, when I run a certian program
> > > >a dialog box (in windows, from VirtualPC) pops up and displays: "An
> > > >internal vritual machine error (13) has occured. The virtual machine
> > > >will reset now."
> > > >
> > > > I watched the /var/log/messages carefully as this crash happened.
> > > >There isn't a peep out of the kernel that I can see. It is repeatable,
> > > >in the exact same spot of the program I run every time; I've not got
> > > >the debug version of the program (a 8 gig download!) so I can't tell
> > > >you what the program is doing at the time. And, I noticed when I run on
> > > >the linux computers up at CERN (where this works just fine) their
> > > >kernel version is identical to the one I'm using in my version of Sci
> > > >Linux.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Gordon.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Does the program try to change the video mode? IIRC, that error is
> > > usually related to video, Xwindows, and/or XORG stuff.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> > > http://vpc.essjae.com/
> > > I do not work for Microsoft.