> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux (SuSE,
> Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for those because I
> would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are running non-Microsoft
> operating systems, I can't install the Additions which might give me
> clipboard support between the guest VMs and also to the host OS. So I
> figured that I'd use Cygwin/X just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X
> on my workstation (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts.
> This is similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
> open xterms to Unix hosts.
>
> Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even a console connected to the
> Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes running off
> to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X, Exceed X,
> ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work from our offices.
> There are times when a console is handy but I can go months before needing
> to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a VM with Virtual PC that simply
> gets that OS up and running and then use an X server on my host to open
> windows to those guest VMs. I can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's
> xwin or xterm programs to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix
> host/VM and to an Windows app on my host.
>
> Most the time, I never touch the console on a Unix host. Similarly, I
> don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever need the
> GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X apps, their
> windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I could minimize the
> VM's window but that really doesn't get it completely out of my way. I'd
> like to load a VM with *no* visual screen for it. If, for example, I
> wanted to play with file servers or mail servers running on the VMs, I
> don't need a desktop GUI for that host but just connectivity to that VM to
> get at the servers running there.
>

> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux (SuSE,
> Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for those because I
> would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are running non-Microsoft
> operating systems, I can't install the Additions which might give me
> clipboard support between the guest VMs and also to the host OS. So I
> figured that I'd use Cygwin/X just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X
> on my workstation (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts.
> This is similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
> open xterms to Unix hosts.
>
> Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even a console connected to the
> Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes running off
> to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X, Exceed X,
> ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work from our offices.
> There are times when a console is handy but I can go months before needing
> to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a VM with Virtual PC that simply
> gets that OS up and running and then use an X server on my host to open
> windows to those guest VMs. I can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's
> xwin or xterm programs to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix
> host/VM and to an Windows app on my host.
>
> Most the time, I never touch the console on a Unix host. Similarly, I
> don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever need the
> GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X apps, their
> windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I could minimize the
> VM's window but that really doesn't get it completely out of my way. I'd
> like to load a VM with *no* visual screen for it. If, for example, I
> wanted to play with file servers or mail servers running on the VMs, I
> don't need a desktop GUI for that host but just connectivity to that VM to
> get at the servers running there.
>

> Was that a case of "great minds think alike" or "fools seldom differ"?
>
> Robert Comer wrote:
>> You might want to look at Virtual Server rather than Virtual PC, it's
>> meant to run OS's in the background like that. With Virtual PC
>> there's always the display.
>>
>>
>> "Vanguard" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux
>>> (SuSE, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for
>>> those because I would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are
>>> running non-Microsoft operating systems, I can't install the
>>> Additions which might give me clipboard support between the guest
>>> VMs and also to the host OS. So I figured that I'd use Cygwin/X
>>> just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X on my workstation
>>> (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts. This is
>>> similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
>>> open xterms to Unix hosts. Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even
>>> a console connected to
>>> the Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes
>>> running off to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X,
>>> Exceed X, ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work
>>> from our offices. There are times when a console is handy but I can
>>> go months before needing to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a
>>> VM with Virtual PC that simply gets that OS up and running and then
>>> use an X server on my host to open windows to those guest VMs. I
>>> can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's xwin or xterm programs
>>> to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix host/VM and to an
>>> Windows app on my host. Most the time, I never touch the console on a
>>> Unix host. Similarly,
>>> I don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever
>>> need the GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X
>>> apps, their windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I
>>> could minimize the VM's window but that really doesn't get it
>>> completely out of my way. I'd like to load a VM with *no* visual
>>> screen for it. If, for example, I wanted to play with file servers
>>> or mail servers running on the VMs, I don't need a desktop GUI for
>>> that host but just connectivity to that VM to get at the servers
>>> running there.
>
>

> Was that a case of "great minds think alike" or "fools seldom differ"?
>
> Robert Comer wrote:
>> You might want to look at Virtual Server rather than Virtual PC, it's
>> meant to run OS's in the background like that. With Virtual PC
>> there's always the display.
>>
>>
>> "Vanguard" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux
>>> (SuSE, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for
>>> those because I would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are
>>> running non-Microsoft operating systems, I can't install the
>>> Additions which might give me clipboard support between the guest
>>> VMs and also to the host OS. So I figured that I'd use Cygwin/X
>>> just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X on my workstation
>>> (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts. This is
>>> similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
>>> open xterms to Unix hosts. Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even
>>> a console connected to
>>> the Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes
>>> running off to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X,
>>> Exceed X, ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work
>>> from our offices. There are times when a console is handy but I can
>>> go months before needing to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a
>>> VM with Virtual PC that simply gets that OS up and running and then
>>> use an X server on my host to open windows to those guest VMs. I
>>> can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's xwin or xterm programs
>>> to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix host/VM and to an
>>> Windows app on my host. Most the time, I never touch the console on a
>>> Unix host. Similarly,
>>> I don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever
>>> need the GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X
>>> apps, their windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I
>>> could minimize the VM's window but that really doesn't get it
>>> completely out of my way. I'd like to load a VM with *no* visual
>>> screen for it. If, for example, I wanted to play with file servers
>>> or mail servers running on the VMs, I don't need a desktop GUI for
>>> that host but just connectivity to that VM to get at the servers
>>> running there.
>
>

> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux
> (SuSE, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for
> those because I would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are
> running non-Microsoft operating systems, I can't install the Additions
> which might give me clipboard support between the guest VMs and also
> to the host OS. So I figured that I'd use Cygwin/X just like I use it
> at work. I have Cygwin/X on my workstation (Windows XP) that lets me
> open shells to the Unix hosts. This is similar to using Exceed X or
> Reflection X on a Windows desktop to open xterms to Unix hosts.
>
> Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even a console connected to
> the Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes
> running off to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X,
> Exceed X, ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work from
> our offices. There are times when a console is handy but I can go
> months before needing to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a VM
> with Virtual PC that simply gets that OS up and running and then use
> an X server on my host to open windows to those guest VMs. I can use
> the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's xwin or xterm programs to let me
> copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix host/VM and to an Windows app on
> my host.
>
> Most the time, I never touch the console on a Unix host. Similarly, I
> don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever need
> the GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X apps,
> their windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I could
> minimize the VM's window but that really doesn't get it completely out
> of my way. I'd like to load a VM with *no* visual screen for it. If,
> for example, I wanted to play with file servers or mail servers
> running on the VMs, I don't need a desktop GUI for that host but just
> connectivity to that VM to get at the servers running there.

> You might want to look at Virtual Server rather than Virtual PC, it's
> meant to run OS's in the background like that. With Virtual PC
> there's always the display.
>
>
> "Vanguard" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux
>> (SuSE, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for
>> those because I would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are
>> running non-Microsoft operating systems, I can't install the
>> Additions which might give me clipboard support between the guest
>> VMs and also to the host OS. So I figured that I'd use Cygwin/X
>> just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X on my workstation
>> (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts. This is
>> similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
>> open xterms to Unix hosts. Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even a
>> console connected to
>> the Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes
>> running off to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X,
>> Exceed X, ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work
>> from our offices. There are times when a console is handy but I can
>> go months before needing to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a
>> VM with Virtual PC that simply gets that OS up and running and then
>> use an X server on my host to open windows to those guest VMs. I
>> can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's xwin or xterm programs
>> to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix host/VM and to an
>> Windows app on my host. Most the time, I never touch the console on a
>> Unix host. Similarly,
>> I don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever
>> need the GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X
>> apps, their windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I
>> could minimize the VM's window but that really doesn't get it
>> completely out of my way. I'd like to load a VM with *no* visual
>> screen for it. If, for example, I wanted to play with file servers
>> or mail servers running on the VMs, I don't need a desktop GUI for
>> that host but just connectivity to that VM to get at the servers
>> running there.

> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux (SuSE,
> Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for those because I
> would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are running non-Microsoft
> operating systems, I can't install the Additions which might give me
> clipboard support between the guest VMs and also to the host OS. So I
> figured that I'd use Cygwin/X just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X
> on my workstation (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts.
> This is similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
> open xterms to Unix hosts.
>
> Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even a console connected to the
> Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes running off
> to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X, Exceed X,
> ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work from our offices.
> There are times when a console is handy but I can go months before needing
> to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a VM with Virtual PC that simply
> gets that OS up and running and then use an X server on my host to open
> windows to those guest VMs. I can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's
> xwin or xterm programs to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix
> host/VM and to an Windows app on my host.
>
> Most the time, I never touch the console on a Unix host. Similarly, I
> don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever need the
> GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X apps, their
> windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I could minimize the
> VM's window but that really doesn't get it completely out of my way. I'd
> like to load a VM with *no* visual screen for it. If, for example, I
> wanted to play with file servers or mail servers running on the VMs, I
> don't need a desktop GUI for that host but just connectivity to that VM to
> get at the servers running there.
>

> Say I want to have one, or more, VMs running which run, say, Linux
> (SuSE, Redhat, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.). I don't need a display for
> those because I would like to use Cygwin/X. Because the VMs are
> running non-Microsoft operating systems, I can't install the
> Additions which might give me clipboard support between the guest
> VMs and also to the host OS. So I figured that I'd use Cygwin/X
> just like I use it at work. I have Cygwin/X on my workstation
> (Windows XP) that lets me open shells to the Unix hosts. This is
> similar to using Exceed X or Reflection X on a Windows desktop to
> open xterms to Unix hosts.
>
> Obviously it doesn't matter if there is even a console connected to
> the Unix host since I'll be opening an xterm for it. No one goes
> running off to the labs to use the consoles since we use CygWin/X,
> Exceed X, ReflectionX, or something similar to let us do our work
> from our offices. There are times when a console is handy but I can
> go months before needing to use it. Similarly, I'd like to load a
> VM with Virtual PC that simply gets that OS up and running and then
> use an X server on my host to open windows to those guest VMs. I
> can use the -clipboard switch with Cygwin's xwin or xterm programs
> to let me copy/paste between an xterm to a Unix host/VM and to an
> Windows app on my host.
>
> Most the time, I never touch the console on a Unix host. Similarly,
> I don't need a login shell in Virtual PC to the VM. I rarely ever
> need the GUI desktop. I'm using shells to the Unix host. For X
> apps, their windows open on my host running the X server. Yeah, I
> could minimize the VM's window but that really doesn't get it
> completely out of my way. I'd like to load a VM with *no* visual
> screen for it. If, for example, I wanted to play with file servers
> or mail servers running on the VMs, I don't need a desktop GUI for
> that host but just connectivity to that VM to get at the servers
> running there.
>

> If you don't want to buy Virtual Server,
>