>I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista
>(Longhorn)
> Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to install in VPC.
> For
> some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master (G) will not read the DVD.
> It
> reads all other DVDs, just not the Vista Beta. My DVD burner on secondary
> slave (H) will read the DVD, but when I try to capture it in VPC, it keeps
> telling me to insert a bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the menu
> to
> capture either Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not
> readable by VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about
> given
> up, I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
> class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives reading the
> Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it or something?
> I've
> reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe there was a problem when my
> instructor made the first disk, but there's no difference. Thanks.

>I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista
>(Longhorn)
> Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to install in VPC.
> For
> some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master (G) will not read the DVD.
> It
> reads all other DVDs, just not the Vista Beta. My DVD burner on secondary
> slave (H) will read the DVD, but when I try to capture it in VPC, it keeps
> telling me to insert a bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the menu
> to
> capture either Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not
> readable by VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about
> given
> up, I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
> class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives reading the
> Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it or something?
> I've
> reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe there was a problem when my
> instructor made the first disk, but there's no difference. Thanks.

> You can use the .iso image if you use software to mount it on your host
> PC. I use Deamon Tools, but there are several available. Just capture the
> mounted image in VPC. (You can just drag it on to the CD drive icon of the
> VPC window)
>
> When you get past this problem you may strike problems if you are
> installing to a "raw" disk. It should be OK if the virtual disk has been
> partitioned.
>
> Vista is pretty slow in VPC, even with plenty of RAM and the
> VMAdditions.

> Did you ask your instructor how he did it?
> When burning the dvd you should "burn to disk." The .iso is a bootable dvd.

> Sounds like a sick DVD. I have installed Vista from both the .iso mounted
> on the host and from a DVD created from the iso with Nero.
>

> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:29:02 -0800, Patty wrote:
>
>> I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista
>> (Longhorn)
>> Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to install in VPC.
>> For
>> some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master (G) will not read the DVD.
>> It
>> reads all other DVDs, just not the Vista Beta. My DVD burner on
>> secondary
>> slave (H) will read the DVD, but when I try to capture it in VPC, it
>> keeps
>> telling me to insert a bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the
>> menu to
>> capture either Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not
>> readable by VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about
>> given
>> up, I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
>> class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives reading
>> the
>> Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it or something?
>> I've
>> reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe there was a problem when my
>> instructor made the first disk, but there's no difference. Thanks.
>
> I finally got the install to start using Daemon Tools. Mounted the image
> in the Daemon drive and it ran, up until the product key needed to be
> entered (not too far into install). Turns out my instructor made a
> mistake
> in the product key since Windows reported it was not a valid key. This is
> not the first time that's happened. *sigh* I'll have to have him check
> all
> my product keys now to make sure they all are correct. *sigh*
>
> Thanks for the thoughts and assistance. Don't know why my physical DVD
> drive nor my Sony DVD-RW wouldn't run the program directly from the burned
> DVD. Haven't a clue.
>
> Patty

> I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista (Longhorn)
> Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to install in VPC. For
> some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master (G) will not read the DVD. It
> reads all other DVDs, just not the Vista Beta. My DVD burner on secondary
> slave (H) will read the DVD, but when I try to capture it in VPC, it keeps
> telling me to insert a bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the menu to
> capture either Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not
> readable by VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about given
> up, I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
> class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives reading the
> Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it or something? I've
> reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe there was a problem when my
> instructor made the first disk, but there's no difference. Thanks.

>> He still could have given me the wrong key #. I will check Monday when I
>> have class again.
>
> It does sound like you do have a bad key...
>
> --
> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP - Virtual Machine>
>
>
>
> "Patty" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:07:39 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>>
>>> It might not be a product key problem, that's kind of a generic message
>>> that
>>> Vista might throw. It depends on what build you're trying to install,
>>> but if
>>> it's build 5270, it could be caused by trying to install Vista on a bare
>>> virtual hard drive (you have to partition and format the hard drive
>>> before
>>> you install Vista) or not having enough RAM allocated to the virtual
>>> machine. (minimum of 512M)
>>
>> Ok. Ignore my prior post. I got through diskpart (read the readme notes
>> for the install) and made a primary partition on the vhd (16GB). Still
>> gives me the error about the key. This is build 5112. Error message is:
>>
>> "Setup cannot validate your product key. Please review your product key
>> and ensure that it has been entered correctly."
>>
>> He still could have given me the wrong key #. I will check Monday when I
>> have class again.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Patty
>
>

> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:09:03 -0700, Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>
>> Be sure you have alloted 512mb for the guest (in the settings for the
>> vm).
>> If I remember right, allocating too little ram may cause the "Product Key
>> Invalid" error.
>>
>
> As I explained to Robert, I have 700MB allocated. (And, my instuctor has
> given out wrong key #s already...)
>
> At this point, I'm just relieved that I got Daemon Tools to work and got
> the install to even start.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Patty

> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:29:02 -0800, Patty wrote:
>
>> I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista
>> (Longhorn)
>> Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to install in VPC.
>> For
>> some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master (G) will not read the DVD.
>> It
>> reads all other DVDs, just not the Vista Beta. My DVD burner on
>> secondary
>> slave (H) will read the DVD, but when I try to capture it in VPC, it
>> keeps
>> telling me to insert a bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the
>> menu to
>> capture either Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not
>> readable by VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about
>> given
>> up, I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
>> class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives reading
>> the
>> Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it or something?
>> I've
>> reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe there was a problem when my
>> instructor made the first disk, but there's no difference. Thanks.
>
> I finally got the install to start using Daemon Tools. Mounted the image
> in the Daemon drive and it ran, up until the product key needed to be
> entered (not too far into install). Turns out my instructor made a
> mistake
> in the product key since Windows reported it was not a valid key. This is
> not the first time that's happened. *sigh* I'll have to have him check
> all
> my product keys now to make sure they all are correct. *sigh*
>
> Thanks for the thoughts and assistance. Don't know why my physical DVD
> drive nor my Sony DVD-RW wouldn't run the program directly from the burned
> DVD. Haven't a clue.
>
> Patty

> It might not be a product key problem, that's kind of a generic message that
> Vista might throw. It depends on what build you're trying to install, but if
> it's build 5270, it could be caused by trying to install Vista on a bare
> virtual hard drive (you have to partition and format the hard drive before
> you install Vista) or not having enough RAM allocated to the virtual
> machine. (minimum of 512M)

> Be sure you have alloted 512mb for the guest (in the settings for the vm).
> If I remember right, allocating too little ram may cause the "Product Key
> Invalid" error.
>

> I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista
> (Longhorn) Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to
> install in VPC. For some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master
> (G) will not read the DVD. It reads all other DVDs, just not the
> Vista Beta. My DVD burner on secondary slave (H) will read the DVD,
> but when I try to capture it in VPC, it keeps telling me to insert a
> bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the menu to capture either
> Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not readable by
> VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about given up,
> I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
> class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives
> reading the Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it
> or something? I've reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe
> there was a problem when my instructor made the first disk, but
> there's no difference. Thanks.

> It might not be a product key problem, that's kind of a generic message that
> Vista might throw. It depends on what build you're trying to install, but if
> it's build 5270, it could be caused by trying to install Vista on a bare
> virtual hard drive (you have to partition and format the hard drive before
> you install Vista) or not having enough RAM allocated to the virtual
> machine. (minimum of 512M)

>My instructor said that the
> only way he could get it to work was to allocate 700MB RAM to the virtual
> machine, which I have done. I have 1GB RAM total on the host system.
> Thanks!
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:07:39 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>
>> It might not be a product key problem, that's kind of a generic message
>> that
>> Vista might throw. It depends on what build you're trying to install, but
>> if
>> it's build 5270, it could be caused by trying to install Vista on a bare
>> virtual hard drive (you have to partition and format the hard drive
>> before
>> you install Vista) or not having enough RAM allocated to the virtual
>> machine. (minimum of 512M)
>
> What do you use to partition and format? XP? My instructor said that the
> only way he could get it to work was to allocate 700MB RAM to the virtual
> machine, which I have done. I have 1GB RAM total on the host system.
> Thanks!
>
> And he could have given me the wrong key #. He did for my Windows 2000
> which runs fine on VPC.
>
> Patty

> have class again.
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:07:39 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>
>> It might not be a product key problem, that's kind of a generic message
>> that
>> Vista might throw. It depends on what build you're trying to install, but
>> if
>> it's build 5270, it could be caused by trying to install Vista on a bare
>> virtual hard drive (you have to partition and format the hard drive
>> before
>> you install Vista) or not having enough RAM allocated to the virtual
>> machine. (minimum of 512M)
>
> Ok. Ignore my prior post. I got through diskpart (read the readme notes
> for the install) and made a primary partition on the vhd (16GB). Still
> gives me the error about the key. This is build 5112. Error message is:
>
> "Setup cannot validate your product key. Please review your product key
> and ensure that it has been entered correctly."
>
> He still could have given me the wrong key #. I will check Monday when I
> have class again.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Patty

> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:05:40 -0700, Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>
>> Did you ask your instructor how he did it?
>> When burning the dvd you should "burn to disk." The .iso is a
>> bootable dvd.
>
> He really didn't give much instruction on how he did it. I think that
> he just put the DVD in the drive and booted from it, but that does
> not work for me for some weird reason. As I've said, VPC (which is
> version 2004) keeps asking for a bootable disk when I try to install
> with the DVD. It keeps saying, "Reboot and Select proper Boot device
> or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device." I have the DVD in the
> DVD/CD reader, have it captured and it will still not boot from it.
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
>
> Patty

>> He still could have given me the wrong key #. I will check Monday when I
>> have class again.
>
> It does sound like you do have a bad key...

>> What do you use to partition and format? XP?
>
> I just used a Win98 boot floppy. If you used an XP CD, then you'd have to
> start the install and let it go until after the partition gets formatted.
>
>>My instructor said that the
>> only way he could get it to work was to allocate 700MB RAM to the virtual
>> machine, which I have done. I have 1GB RAM total on the host system.
>
> It should work at 700 if you're not doing much else on your host PC at the
> time.
>
>> Thanks!
>
> You're welcome, always glad to help!

>You didn't format that way did you?
>It took me a bit of time to figure out how
> DISKPART worked (nothing like the old FDISK), I had to read the help file,
> but I was able to make a primary partition on the drive but I didn't
> format
> it. Not sure if I was supposed to do that or not.
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:57:29 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>
>>> What do you use to partition and format? XP?
>>
>> I just used a Win98 boot floppy. If you used an XP CD, then you'd have
>> to
>> start the install and let it go until after the partition gets formatted.
>>
>>>My instructor said that the
>>> only way he could get it to work was to allocate 700MB RAM to the
>>> virtual
>>> machine, which I have done. I have 1GB RAM total on the host system.
>>
>> It should work at 700 if you're not doing much else on your host PC at
>> the
>> time.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> You're welcome, always glad to help!
>
> So, you used Win98 to partition? You didn't format that way did you?
> Won't Vista use NTFS and Win98 use FAT32? Or is this all too early in the
> beta stages to be concerned about how anything is formatted? I followed
> the readme on the install program where it explained that this beta
> version
> would not install to a RAW disk and that I should open a prompt by using
> Shift-F10 and run Diskpart. It took me a bit of time to figure out how
> DISKPART worked (nothing like the old FDISK), I had to read the help file,
> but I was able to make a primary partition on the drive but I didn't
> format
> it. Not sure if I was supposed to do that or not.
>
> When I first tried starting up this Virtual Machine with the 700MB I got
> an
> error message about not having enough memory, so I shut down some
> background programs on the host and now it doesn't complain, just goes
> through the boot with no problems. So, I am guessing I have enough.
>
> Patty

>> So, you used Win98 to partition?
>
> Yep.
>
>>You didn't format that way did you?
>
> Yes I did, FAT32, then when I installed Vista, I had it reformat it to NTFS.
> I suspect I didn't need to format the drive, just an extra precaution.
>
> In earlier builds of Vista, I was able to partition and format straight from
> Vista. That should work for you with build 5112, just boot from the Vista
> install DVD, go all the way to the screen where you partition the hard
> drive, then when that is done, you reboot and start the install over, then
> it'll be able to format the drive and continue.
>>It took me a bit of time to figure out how
>> DISKPART worked (nothing like the old FDISK), I had to read the help file,
>> but I was able to make a primary partition on the drive but I didn't
>> format
>> it. Not sure if I was supposed to do that or not.
>
> You don't format with diskpart, that just does the partitioning. Just do
> the partitioning and reboot and start the install over.

> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:06:33 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>
>>> So, you used Win98 to partition?
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>>You didn't format that way did you?
>>
>> Yes I did, FAT32, then when I installed Vista, I had it reformat it to
>> NTFS.
>> I suspect I didn't need to format the drive, just an extra precaution.
>>
>> In earlier builds of Vista, I was able to partition and format straight
>> from
>> Vista. That should work for you with build 5112, just boot from the Vista
>> install DVD, go all the way to the screen where you partition the hard
>> drive, then when that is done, you reboot and start the install over,
>> then
>> it'll be able to format the drive and continue.
>
> This version does state in the readme file included with the install that
> it will not install to a RAW disk, so they recommend that you use DISKPART
> to partition first. As I recall they didn't mention formatting, maybe
> I'll
> go through and read that file again.
>
>>>It took me a bit of time to figure out how
>>> DISKPART worked (nothing like the old FDISK), I had to read the help
>>> file,
>>> but I was able to make a primary partition on the drive but I didn't
>>> format
>>> it. Not sure if I was supposed to do that or not.
>>
>> You don't format with diskpart, that just does the partitioning. Just do
>> the partitioning and reboot and start the install over.
>
> I guess I can't do much until I get the key right. Looks like it will be
> a
> fun project for next week. ;o)
>
> Thanks again for all your info and help. I can't wait to try to get it up
> and running and play with it.
>
> Patty

> a
> fun project for next week. ;o)
> Thanks again for all your info and help. I can't wait to try to get it up
> and running and play with it.
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:06:33 -0500, Robert Comer wrote:
>
>>> So, you used Win98 to partition?
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>>You didn't format that way did you?
>>
>> Yes I did, FAT32, then when I installed Vista, I had it reformat it to
>> NTFS.
>> I suspect I didn't need to format the drive, just an extra precaution.
>>
>> In earlier builds of Vista, I was able to partition and format straight
>> from
>> Vista. That should work for you with build 5112, just boot from the Vista
>> install DVD, go all the way to the screen where you partition the hard
>> drive, then when that is done, you reboot and start the install over,
>> then
>> it'll be able to format the drive and continue.
>
> This version does state in the readme file included with the install that
> it will not install to a RAW disk, so they recommend that you use DISKPART
> to partition first. As I recall they didn't mention formatting, maybe
> I'll
> go through and read that file again.
>
>>>It took me a bit of time to figure out how
>>> DISKPART worked (nothing like the old FDISK), I had to read the help
>>> file,
>>> but I was able to make a primary partition on the drive but I didn't
>>> format
>>> it. Not sure if I was supposed to do that or not.
>>
>> You don't format with diskpart, that just does the partitioning. Just do
>> the partitioning and reboot and start the install over.
>
> I guess I can't do much until I get the key right. Looks like it will be
> a
> fun project for next week. ;o)
>
> Thanks again for all your info and help. I can't wait to try to get it up
> and running and play with it.
>
> Patty

> You can use the .iso image if you use software to mount it on your host
> PC. I use Deamon Tools, but there are several available. Just capture the
> mounted image in VPC. (You can just drag it on to the CD drive icon of the
> VPC window)
>
> When you get past this problem you may strike problems if you are
> installing to a "raw" disk. It should be OK if the virtual disk has been
> partitioned.
>
> Vista is pretty slow in VPC, even with plenty of RAM and the
> VMAdditions.
>
> Patty wrote:
> > I am currently taking a class and received VPC and a copy of Vista
> > (Longhorn) Beta 1 from my instructor. I cannot seem to get it to
> > install in VPC. For some reason, my DVD reader on secondary master
> > (G) will not read the DVD. It reads all other DVDs, just not the
> > Vista Beta. My DVD burner on secondary slave (H) will read the DVD,
> > but when I try to capture it in VPC, it keeps telling me to insert a
> > bootable disk. VPC gives me the choice in the menu to capture either
> > Drive G or H. I cannot use the .iso file since it's not readable by
> > VPC either since it's larger than 2.2 GB. I've just about given up,
> > I had hoped to be able to get this working but no joy. Others in my
> > class are experiencing the same problems with their DVD drives
> > reading the Vista Beta DVD. Is there something really weird about it
> > or something? I've reburned the .iso file to disk thinking maybe
> > there was a problem when my instructor made the first disk, but
> > there's no difference. Thanks.
>
>
>