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Secondary Drive Hangs

Source: microsoft.public.virtualpc
Sent: 12/24/2005
From: John Schneider
Message:

I have a Windows 98 SE virtual machine that works just fine. However, when I
add a second drive to the VM, it hangs for a while (20-30 minutes) during the
boot.

The second drive I created using the vitual disk wizard, setting it to a
fixed size of 4gb. I then created a Win 98 VM using this new VHD. I loaded
a Win 98 SE floppy, and booted the VM, which booted from the floppy. Used
FDisk to partition the VHD (one primary patition, one extended partition with
2 logical drives), then formatted all 3 drives. I shut down this VM, and in
the VPC console, added this new drive as Hard Disk 2 to my existing Win 98 SE
VM. I then started the 98 VM. Once it got to the Windows 98 logo startup
screen, it took 20-30 minutes to boot up. Not sure how long it took, as I
went away from the machine for about a half hour.

Once it booted up, everything seemed to work fine until I brought up Windows
Explorer to move some files to the secondary drive. Windows Explorer has
been hung up now for about 20 minutes. I can see the few files/folders in
the right pane, but the left one, where the drive/folder tree is supposed to
be, is blank. The VM is totally unresponsive. When I go to the task manager
in XP, the Virtual PC process is constantly averaging about 70-75% CPU usage.
So, obviously, its doing SOMETHING.

I never had this problem adding a second physical hard drive to a PC already
running Windows 98. Did I miss something when adding that second drive to
the VM? Any other changes I should make to the configuration of the 98 VM,
or in the 98 OS?

Thanks

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Re: Secondary Drive Hangs

Sent: 12/24/2005
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
Message:

How large is the system vhd? Where is the page file located and how large
is it? Is your vm on a different physical drive from the XP system?

What is different about adding a second drive to a vm is that you may not be
using a different spindle as you would in a physical computer. If you are
locating the page file on that second vhd but locating the second vhd in the
same folder as the system (C:) vhd then you are probably seriously slowing
the vm down. If you are running a program in the system drive that does a
lot of data access to the second vhd then you should put the second vhd on a
different host hard drive for performance reasons. This is really no
different from a physical computer.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"John Schneider" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

>I have a Windows 98 SE virtual machine that works just fine. However, when
>I
> add a second drive to the VM, it hangs for a while (20-30 minutes) during
> the
> boot.
>
> The second drive I created using the vitual disk wizard, setting it to a
> fixed size of 4gb. I then created a Win 98 VM using this new VHD. I
> loaded
> a Win 98 SE floppy, and booted the VM, which booted from the floppy. Used
> FDisk to partition the VHD (one primary patition, one extended partition
> with
> 2 logical drives), then formatted all 3 drives. I shut down this VM, and
> in
> the VPC console, added this new drive as Hard Disk 2 to my existing Win 98
> SE
> VM. I then started the 98 VM. Once it got to the Windows 98 logo startup
> screen, it took 20-30 minutes to boot up. Not sure how long it took, as I
> went away from the machine for about a half hour.
>
> Once it booted up, everything seemed to work fine until I brought up
> Windows
> Explorer to move some files to the secondary drive. Windows Explorer has
> been hung up now for about 20 minutes. I can see the few files/folders in
> the right pane, but the left one, where the drive/folder tree is supposed
> to
> be, is blank. The VM is totally unresponsive. When I go to the task
> manager
> in XP, the Virtual PC process is constantly averaging about 70-75% CPU
> usage.
> So, obviously, its doing SOMETHING.
>
> I never had this problem adding a second physical hard drive to a PC
> already
> running Windows 98. Did I miss something when adding that second drive to
> the VM? Any other changes I should make to the configuration of the 98
> VM,
> or in the 98 OS?
>
> Thanks

Re: Secondary Drive Hangs

Sent: 12/24/2005
From: John Schneider
Message:

Colin,

The system vhd is 376,959KB. The page file must be on this VHD since, as I
mentioned, this VHD works fine without the second VHD attached. The VM is on
a different physical drive from the XP OS.

The really strange part of this is that the second VHD has no data on it at
all. It was partitioned and formatted, but no data added to it yet.

Thanks for the reply,
John

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

Show quoted text

> How large is the system vhd? Where is the page file located and how large
> is it? Is your vm on a different physical drive from the XP system?
>
> What is different about adding a second drive to a vm is that you may not be
> using a different spindle as you would in a physical computer. If you are
> locating the page file on that second vhd but locating the second vhd in the
> same folder as the system (C:) vhd then you are probably seriously slowing
> the vm down. If you are running a program in the system drive that does a
> lot of data access to the second vhd then you should put the second vhd on a
> different host hard drive for performance reasons. This is really no
> different from a physical computer.
>
> --
> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
> "John Schneider" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> >I have a Windows 98 SE virtual machine that works just fine. However, when
> >I
> > add a second drive to the VM, it hangs for a while (20-30 minutes) during
> > the
> > boot.
> >
> > The second drive I created using the vitual disk wizard, setting it to a
> > fixed size of 4gb. I then created a Win 98 VM using this new VHD. I
> > loaded
> > a Win 98 SE floppy, and booted the VM, which booted from the floppy. Used
> > FDisk to partition the VHD (one primary patition, one extended partition
> > with
> > 2 logical drives), then formatted all 3 drives. I shut down this VM, and
> > in
> > the VPC console, added this new drive as Hard Disk 2 to my existing Win 98
> > SE
> > VM. I then started the 98 VM. Once it got to the Windows 98 logo startup
> > screen, it took 20-30 minutes to boot up. Not sure how long it took, as I
> > went away from the machine for about a half hour.
> >
> > Once it booted up, everything seemed to work fine until I brought up
> > Windows
> > Explorer to move some files to the secondary drive. Windows Explorer has
> > been hung up now for about 20 minutes. I can see the few files/folders in
> > the right pane, but the left one, where the drive/folder tree is supposed
> > to
> > be, is blank. The VM is totally unresponsive. When I go to the task
> > manager
> > in XP, the Virtual PC process is constantly averaging about 70-75% CPU
> > usage.
> > So, obviously, its doing SOMETHING.
> >
> > I never had this problem adding a second physical hard drive to a PC
> > already
> > running Windows 98. Did I miss something when adding that second drive to
> > the VM? Any other changes I should make to the configuration of the 98
> > VM,
> > or in the 98 OS?
> >
> > Thanks
>
>
>

Re: Secondary Drive Hangs

Sent: 12/25/2005
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
Message:

When I asked how big the system vhd is I did not mean how much data is on
it. What is the size of the system vhd? Not how much space on it is used
or how big it appears on the host. What drive is the system vhd on and what
drive is the second vhd on?

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"John Schneider" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

> Colin,
>
> The system vhd is 376,959KB. The page file must be on this VHD since, as
> I
> mentioned, this VHD works fine without the second VHD attached. The VM is
> on
> a different physical drive from the XP OS.
>
> The really strange part of this is that the second VHD has no data on it
> at
> all. It was partitioned and formatted, but no data added to it yet.
>
> Thanks for the reply,
> John
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> How large is the system vhd? Where is the page file located and how
>> large
>> is it? Is your vm on a different physical drive from the XP system?
>>
>> What is different about adding a second drive to a vm is that you may not
>> be
>> using a different spindle as you would in a physical computer. If you
>> are
>> locating the page file on that second vhd but locating the second vhd in
>> the
>> same folder as the system (C:) vhd then you are probably seriously
>> slowing
>> the vm down. If you are running a program in the system drive that does
>> a
>> lot of data access to the second vhd then you should put the second vhd
>> on a
>> different host hard drive for performance reasons. This is really no
>> different from a physical computer.
>>
>> --
>> Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
>> (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
>> "John Schneider" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> >I have a Windows 98 SE virtual machine that works just fine. However,
>> >when
>> >I
>> > add a second drive to the VM, it hangs for a while (20-30 minutes)
>> > during
>> > the
>> > boot.
>> >
>> > The second drive I created using the vitual disk wizard, setting it to
>> > a
>> > fixed size of 4gb. I then created a Win 98 VM using this new VHD. I
>> > loaded
>> > a Win 98 SE floppy, and booted the VM, which booted from the floppy.
>> > Used
>> > FDisk to partition the VHD (one primary patition, one extended
>> > partition
>> > with
>> > 2 logical drives), then formatted all 3 drives. I shut down this VM,
>> > and
>> > in
>> > the VPC console, added this new drive as Hard Disk 2 to my existing Win
>> > 98
>> > SE
>> > VM. I then started the 98 VM. Once it got to the Windows 98 logo
>> > startup
>> > screen, it took 20-30 minutes to boot up. Not sure how long it took,
>> > as I
>> > went away from the machine for about a half hour.
>> >
>> > Once it booted up, everything seemed to work fine until I brought up
>> > Windows
>> > Explorer to move some files to the secondary drive. Windows Explorer
>> > has
>> > been hung up now for about 20 minutes. I can see the few files/folders
>> > in
>> > the right pane, but the left one, where the drive/folder tree is
>> > supposed
>> > to
>> > be, is blank. The VM is totally unresponsive. When I go to the task
>> > manager
>> > in XP, the Virtual PC process is constantly averaging about 70-75% CPU
>> > usage.
>> > So, obviously, its doing SOMETHING.
>> >
>> > I never had this problem adding a second physical hard drive to a PC
>> > already
>> > running Windows 98. Did I miss something when adding that second drive
>> > to
>> > the VM? Any other changes I should make to the configuration of the 98
>> > VM,
>> > or in the 98 OS?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>>

Re: Secondary Drive Hangs

Sent: 01/12/2006
From: "John Elliott" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

I think that 4GB might be too much for Win98. Try a smaller drive size, and
make sure it is formatted as fat32.

John Elliott

"John Schneider" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
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> I have a Windows 98 SE virtual machine that works just fine. However,
> add a second drive to the VM, it hangs for a while (20-30 minutes) during
> boot.
>
> The second drive I created using the vitual disk wizard, setting it to a
> fixed size of 4gb. I then created a Win 98 VM using this new VHD. I
> a Win 98 SE floppy, and booted the VM, which booted from the floppy. Used
> FDisk to partition the VHD (one primary patition, one extended partition
> 2 logical drives), then formatted all 3 drives. I shut down this VM, and
> the VPC console, added this new drive as Hard Disk 2 to my existing Win 98
> VM. I then started the 98 VM. Once it got to the Windows 98 logo startup
> screen, it took 20-30 minutes to boot up. Not sure how long it took, as I
> went away from the machine for about a half hour.
>
> Once it booted up, everything seemed to work fine until I brought up
> Explorer to move some files to the secondary drive. Windows Explorer has
> been hung up now for about 20 minutes. I can see the few files/folders in
> the right pane, but the left one, where the drive/folder tree is supposed
> be, is blank. The VM is totally unresponsive. When I go to the task
> in XP, the Virtual PC process is constantly averaging about 70-75% CPU
> So, obviously, its doing SOMETHING.
>
> I never had this problem adding a second physical hard drive to a PC
> running Windows 98. Did I miss something when adding that second drive to
> the VM? Any other changes I should make to the configuration of the 98
> or in the 98 OS?
>
> Thanks

Re: Secondary Drive Hangs

Sent: 01/12/2006
From: "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:

Win98 can handle 4G drives no problem...

--
Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP - Virtual Machine>

"John Elliott" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...

Show quoted text

>I think that 4GB might be too much for Win98. Try a smaller drive size, and
> make sure it is formatted as fat32.
>
> John Elliott
>
> "John Schneider" <(email address - cut out)am> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> I have a Windows 98 SE virtual machine that works just fine. However,
> when I
>> add a second drive to the VM, it hangs for a while (20-30 minutes) during
> the
>> boot.
>>
>> The second drive I created using the vitual disk wizard, setting it to a
>> fixed size of 4gb. I then created a Win 98 VM using this new VHD. I
> loaded
>> a Win 98 SE floppy, and booted the VM, which booted from the floppy.
>> Used
>> FDisk to partition the VHD (one primary patition, one extended partition
> with
>> 2 logical drives), then formatted all 3 drives. I shut down this VM, and
> in
>> the VPC console, added this new drive as Hard Disk 2 to my existing Win
>> 98
> SE
>> VM. I then started the 98 VM. Once it got to the Windows 98 logo
>> startup
>> screen, it took 20-30 minutes to boot up. Not sure how long it took, as
>> I
>> went away from the machine for about a half hour.
>>
>> Once it booted up, everything seemed to work fine until I brought up
> Windows
>> Explorer to move some files to the secondary drive. Windows Explorer has
>> been hung up now for about 20 minutes. I can see the few files/folders
>> in
>> the right pane, but the left one, where the drive/folder tree is supposed
> to
>> be, is blank. The VM is totally unresponsive. When I go to the task
> manager
>> in XP, the Virtual PC process is constantly averaging about 70-75% CPU
> usage.
>> So, obviously, its doing SOMETHING.
>>
>> I never had this problem adding a second physical hard drive to a PC
> already
>> running Windows 98. Did I miss something when adding that second drive
>> to
>> the VM? Any other changes I should make to the configuration of the 98
> VM,
>> or in the 98 OS?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>

Re: Secondary Drive Hangs

Sent: 01/12/2006
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
Message:

I use 16GB virtual hard drives with no issues.

"John Elliott" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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