Sent: 10/30/2005
From: "Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:Hi,
There has been an update (http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#3) but it
doesn't remove the 2.2 GB limit or add snapshots
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> has there been any word on a new version of virtual pc or at leasst an
> update? the 2.2gb limit on mounted images would be a great fix (and maybe
> adding true snapshots instead of the differencing).
Sent: 10/30/2005
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:38:53 -0000, "Mark Rae"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Nothing has been announced by Microsoft.
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>"Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>> There has been an update (http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#3) but it
>> doesn't remove the 2.2 GB limit or add snapshots
>
>Presumably, no further word on a 64-bit version of Virtual PC...?
>
Sent: 10/30/2005
From: "Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:I'm afraid not :-\
Virtual Server R2, currently in beta, has a 64-bit version, but it still
only allows 32-bit guests
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> "Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>> There has been an update (http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#3) but it
>> doesn't remove the 2.2 GB limit or add snapshots
>
> Presumably, no further word on a 64-bit version of Virtual PC...?
>
Sent: 10/30/2005
From: "Mark Rae" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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Presumably, no further word on a 64-bit version of Virtual PC...?
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> There has been an update (http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#3) but it
> doesn't remove the 2.2 GB limit or add snapshots
Sent: 10/31/2005
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:23:23 -0000, "Mark Rae"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
You can still run the 32bit XP (with VPC) on a 64bit machine, and
actually be able to use all your peripherals that still don't have
drivers for XP x64.
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>"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>>>Presumably, no further word on a 64-bit version of Virtual PC...?
>>
>> Nothing has been announced by Microsoft.
>
>At the moment, that is the only thing preventing me from investing in a
>64-bit machine...
>
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Message:"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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At the moment, that is the only thing preventing me from investing in a
64-bit machine...
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>>Presumably, no further word on a 64-bit version of Virtual PC...?
>
> Nothing has been announced by Microsoft.
Sent: 10/31/2005
From: Steve Jain <(email address - cut out)>
Message:On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:06:35 -0000, "Mark Rae"
<(email address - cut out)> wrote:
Right, but there's no reason to buy a new 32-bit machine, since the
64-bit systems can handle both.
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>"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>>>At the moment, that is the only thing preventing me from investing in a
>>>64-bit machine...
>>
>> You can still run the 32bit XP (with VPC) on a 64bit machine, and
>> actually be able to use all your peripherals that still don't have
>> drivers for XP x64.
>
>Er, so how does that help me...? I can presently run all the 32-bit software
>on a 32-bit machine...
>
Sent: 10/31/2005
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
Message:I agree. It seems a waste of money now to buy a new PC with a 32-bit
processor (unless all you plan to do with it is surf the web). Also, there
are some advantages to running 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit machine (such as
more registers, etc).
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> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:06:35 -0000, "Mark Rae"
> <(email address - cut out)> wrote:
>
>>"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>>
>>>>At the moment, that is the only thing preventing me from investing in a
>>>>64-bit machine...
>>>
>>> You can still run the 32bit XP (with VPC) on a 64bit machine, and
>>> actually be able to use all your peripherals that still don't have
>>> drivers for XP x64.
>>
>>Er, so how does that help me...? I can presently run all the 32-bit
>>software
>>on a 32-bit machine...
>>
>
> Right, but there's no reason to buy a new 32-bit machine, since the
> 64-bit systems can handle both.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://www.essjae.com/vpc/vpc.htm
> "This posting is provided "AS IS" with
> no warranties, and confers no rights.
> You assume all risk for your use.
> I am not am employee of Microsoft."
Sent: 10/31/2005
From: "Mark Rae" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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Er, so how does that help me...? I can presently run all the 32-bit software
on a 32-bit machine...
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>>At the moment, that is the only thing preventing me from investing in a
>>64-bit machine...
>
> You can still run the 32bit XP (with VPC) on a 64bit machine, and
> actually be able to use all your peripherals that still don't have
> drivers for XP x64.
Sent: 11/01/2005
From: "Bill Grant" <not.available@online>
Message: That is exactly Steve's point. You need to have the pioneering spirit to
run 64-bit software at present. Lots of things (not just VPC) don't exist
yet for it.
Mark Rae wrote:
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> "Steve Jain" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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>
>>> At the moment, that is the only thing preventing me from investing
>>> in a 64-bit machine...
>>
>> You can still run the 32bit XP (with VPC) on a 64bit machine, and
>> actually be able to use all your peripherals that still don't have
>> drivers for XP x64.
>
> Er, so how does that help me...? I can presently run all the 32-bit
> software on a 32-bit machine...
Sent: 11/15/2005
From: "Robert Comer" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:>would there be any problem in creating the HDs on the second partition even
As long as the partition is visible to the x86 side, it would work. (it
depends on how you dual-boot in other words.)
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>though it has an installation of 64-bit WinXP-Pro on it?
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>
>>I agree. It seems a waste of money now to buy a new PC with a 32-bit
>>processor (unless all you plan to do with it is surf the web). Also,
>>there are some advantages to running 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit machine
>>(such as more registers, etc).
>
> Fair enough. Here's a question on this:
>
> Supposing I buy a 64-bit machine with two hard disks.
>
> I install 32-bit WinXP-Pro on the first hard disk, all my 32-bit apps
> (Office 2003, VS.NET 2005 etc) and then VPC.
>
> I install 64-bit WinXP-Pro on the second hard disk just for testing the
> new 64-bit versions of existing software (SQL Server 2005), and other
> 64-bit upgrades as and when they are released.
>
> I dual-boot between the two hard disks as and when required.
>
> Question is, as everyone agrees that VPC works best when the code is on
> one hard disk and the VHDs etc are on another, would there be any problem
> in creating the HDs on the second partition even though it has an
> installation of 64-bit WinXP-Pro on it?
>
Sent: 11/15/2005
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
Message:I would go one further and partition the second drive for x64 system and
data. Since you won't be running the x64 system when using VPC, the data
partition will be perfect for your vhd's. Make sure that the second drive
is on a separate controller (SATA always are) to get the full benefit of
asynchronous read/writes. The data partition will also serve a good purpose
when you are in x64.
In my own systems I either run three internal drives or two and an external.
My fastest external is a SPIO SATA enclosure which uses a pass-through from
the motherboard.
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"Mark Rae" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
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> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
>
>>I agree. It seems a waste of money now to buy a new PC with a 32-bit
>>processor (unless all you plan to do with it is surf the web). Also,
>>there are some advantages to running 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit machine
>>(such as more registers, etc).
>
> Fair enough. Here's a question on this:
>
> Supposing I buy a 64-bit machine with two hard disks.
>
> I install 32-bit WinXP-Pro on the first hard disk, all my 32-bit apps
> (Office 2003, VS.NET 2005 etc) and then VPC.
>
> I install 64-bit WinXP-Pro on the second hard disk just for testing the
> new 64-bit versions of existing software (SQL Server 2005), and other
> 64-bit upgrades as and when they are released.
>
> I dual-boot between the two hard disks as and when required.
>
> Question is, as everyone agrees that VPC works best when the code is on
> one hard disk and the VHDs etc are on another, would there be any problem
> in creating the HDs on the second partition even though it has an
> installation of 64-bit WinXP-Pro on it?
>
Sent: 11/15/2005
From: "Mark Rae" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:(email address - cut out)...
Fair enough. Here's a question on this:
Supposing I buy a 64-bit machine with two hard disks.
I install 32-bit WinXP-Pro on the first hard disk, all my 32-bit apps
(Office 2003, VS.NET 2005 etc) and then VPC.
I install 64-bit WinXP-Pro on the second hard disk just for testing the new
64-bit versions of existing software (SQL Server 2005), and other 64-bit
upgrades as and when they are released.
I dual-boot between the two hard disks as and when required.
Question is, as everyone agrees that VPC works best when the code is on one
hard disk and the VHDs etc are on another, would there be any problem in
creating the HDs on the second partition even though it has an installation
of 64-bit WinXP-Pro on it?
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>I agree. It seems a waste of money now to buy a new PC with a 32-bit
>processor (unless all you plan to do with it is surf the web). Also, there
>are some advantages to running 32-bit Windows on a 64-bit machine (such as
>more registers, etc).
Sent: 11/16/2005
From: "Mark Rae" <(email address - cut out)>
Message:"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
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Well, that seems like a pretty sensible setup - thanks.
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>I would go one further and partition the second drive for x64 system and
>data. Since you won't be running the x64 system when using VPC, the data
>partition will be perfect for your vhd's. Make sure that the second drive
>is on a separate controller (SATA always are) to get the full benefit of
>asynchronous read/writes. The data partition will also serve a good
>purpose when you are in x64.
Sent: 11/16/2005
From: "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com>
Message:You're welcome.
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> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
>>I would go one further and partition the second drive for x64 system and
>>data. Since you won't be running the x64 system when using VPC, the data
>>partition will be perfect for your vhd's. Make sure that the second drive
>>is on a separate controller (SATA always are) to get the full benefit of
>>asynchronous read/writes. The data partition will also serve a good
>>purpose when you are in x64.
>
> Well, that seems like a pretty sensible setup - thanks.
>
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