> Ham wrote:
> > I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older versions
> > of Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over
> > the last few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
> > But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick
> > to it?
>
> Define "Fixed". Virtual PC 2004 works with scores of operating systems
> including all modern versions of Windows, including some which haven't been
> released yet (e.g. longhorn). I'm not sure how much more compatible with
> modern systems you think it should be. The idea that it only works with
> older operating systems is certainly one of the daftest things i've seen in
> a while, sorry.
>
> Yes there is a performance issue with Windows XP SP2 which will be fixed by
> Virtual PC 2004"s Service Pack 1, and yes that has been delayed. That is a
> bug. A mistake. Not "not compatible". As for a firm date for the release, I
> personally don't have one. I can lie and make one up if you wish.
>
> --
> --
> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP for servers & security
> Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
>
> Kazaa - Software update services for your Viruses and Spyware.
>
>
>
>

>I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older versions of
> Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over the last
> few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
> But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick to it?
>
> Is there any replacement for the old VPC2004 that does work with today's
> Windows?
>
> Also, Virtual Server.
> I installed the trial VS on an XP SP2 platform. Is the trial version a
> final
> release? Will the VS edition to be released to msdn subscribers be a trial
> version? Is there a new date for when this will be released on msdn (last
> date I saw was for a week ago...).

> Many others have called it slow running XP SP2 on VPC2004. My own
> experience
> was it took 6 hours to boot! Yes it did boot (though it could not access
> internet).
> OK maybe you call 6 hours to boot "compatible" but you could just as well
> say that diesel is "compatible" with all cars.
>
> I'd like to be impressed that VPC 2004 works with unreleased versions of
> windows, I just can't figure out how to get hold of an unreleased version
> of
> windows.
>
> I personally welcome your generous offer that you are willing to lie and
> make up a release date. Yes please! Give us some hope! What's the date?
>
>
>
> "Robert Moir" wrote:
>
>> Ham wrote:
>> > I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older versions
>> > of Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over
>> > the last few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
>> > But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick
>> > to it?
>>
>> Define "Fixed". Virtual PC 2004 works with scores of operating systems
>> including all modern versions of Windows, including some which haven't
>> been
>> released yet (e.g. longhorn). I'm not sure how much more compatible with
>> modern systems you think it should be. The idea that it only works with
>> older operating systems is certainly one of the daftest things i've seen
>> in
>> a while, sorry.
>>
>> Yes there is a performance issue with Windows XP SP2 which will be fixed
>> by
>> Virtual PC 2004"s Service Pack 1, and yes that has been delayed. That is
>> a
>> bug. A mistake. Not "not compatible". As for a firm date for the release,
>> I
>> personally don't have one. I can lie and make one up if you wish.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP for servers & security
>> Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
>> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
>> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
>>
>> Kazaa - Software update services for your Viruses and Spyware.
>>
>>
>>
>>

> Your assumptions are 180% from my own experience. Please read postings and
> help documents before plunging into criticism of something with which you
> are inexperienced.
>
> "Ham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> >I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older versions of
> > Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over the last
> > few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
> > But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick to it?
> >
> > Is there any replacement for the old VPC2004 that does work with today's
> > Windows?
> >
> > Also, Virtual Server.
> > I installed the trial VS on an XP SP2 platform. Is the trial version a
> > final
> > release? Will the VS edition to be released to msdn subscribers be a trial
> > version? Is there a new date for when this will be released on msdn (last
> > date I saw was for a week ago...).
>
>
>

> Ham wrote:
> > Many others have called it slow running XP SP2 on VPC2004. My own
> > experience was it took 6 hours to boot! Yes it did boot (though it
> > could not access internet).
> > OK maybe you call 6 hours to boot "compatible" but you could just as
> > well say that diesel is "compatible" with all cars.
>
> If it really takes 6 hours to boot an operating system in virtual PC then
> I'd ask if you have visited the FAQ site, or investigated the performance
> tuning options... this is far from my experience with XP SP2 on Virtual PC.
>
> > I'd like to be impressed that VPC 2004 works with unreleased versions
> > of windows, I just can't figure out how to get hold of an unreleased
> > version of windows.
>
> Your earlier post implied you were a MSDN subscriber. MSDN frequently
> contains betas of new software, for example, the "Longhorn" preview of the
> next version of Windows.
>
> > I personally welcome your generous offer that you are willing to lie
> > and make up a release date. Yes please! Give us some hope! What's the
> > date?
>
> "Real Soon Now."
>
>
>

> Perhaps some of your Apple IIe software will do.
>
> "Ham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
> news:(email address - cut out)...
> > Many others have called it slow running XP SP2 on VPC2004. My own
> > experience
> > was it took 6 hours to boot! Yes it did boot (though it could not access
> > internet).
> > OK maybe you call 6 hours to boot "compatible" but you could just as well
> > say that diesel is "compatible" with all cars.
> >
> > I'd like to be impressed that VPC 2004 works with unreleased versions of
> > windows, I just can't figure out how to get hold of an unreleased version
> > of
> > windows.
> >
> > I personally welcome your generous offer that you are willing to lie and
> > make up a release date. Yes please! Give us some hope! What's the date?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Robert Moir" wrote:
> >
> >> Ham wrote:
> >> > I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older versions
> >> > of Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over
> >> > the last few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
> >> > But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick
> >> > to it?
> >>
> >> Define "Fixed". Virtual PC 2004 works with scores of operating systems
> >> including all modern versions of Windows, including some which haven't
> >> been
> >> released yet (e.g. longhorn). I'm not sure how much more compatible with
> >> modern systems you think it should be. The idea that it only works with
> >> older operating systems is certainly one of the daftest things i've seen
> >> in
> >> a while, sorry.
> >>
> >> Yes there is a performance issue with Windows XP SP2 which will be fixed
> >> by
> >> Virtual PC 2004"s Service Pack 1, and yes that has been delayed. That is
> >> a
> >> bug. A mistake. Not "not compatible". As for a firm date for the release,
> >> I
> >> personally don't have one. I can lie and make one up if you wish.
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP for servers & security
> >> Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
> >> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
> >> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
> >>
> >> Kazaa - Software update services for your Viruses and Spyware.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

>-----Original Message-----
>With respect Sir,
>I installed SP2 for Windows XP over 6 weeks ago, then=20
>this news group asking if there was any way to try and=20
>when it hung for several hours.
>
>The only response I received was =E2?onot that I know of=E2?=9D
>
>This is, as I say some 42 days ago. Long after XP SP2=20
>and several months after RC1 of XP SP2 was released.
>I note also that for these managed news groups =E2?
>you receive a response to your posts within 2 business=20
>So, I take it that =E2?onot that I know of=E2?=9D was the=20
>Microsoft had assured me of.
>
>As you mention yourself, in your post to this group of=20
>VMWare. So perhaps this is not a problem you have had!
>And yet you reply in this news group telling people to =E2?
>when there is no date and hence no commitment for when=20
>resolved.
>
>In general I have no criticism of VPC2004. All I ask for=20
>commitment as to when the long promised SP1 shall come.
>
>
>"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Your assumptions are 180% from my own experience. =20
>> help documents before plunging into criticism of=20
>> are inexperienced.
>>=20
>> "Ham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message=20
>> news:970E71B7-44C4-4D60-AA70-
>> >I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible=20
>> > Windows, and not the current one. I know that every=20
>> > few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few=20
>> > But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC=20
>> >
>> > Is there any replacement for the old VPC2004 that=20
>> > Windows?
>> >
>> > Also, Virtual Server.
>> > I installed the trial VS on an XP SP2 platform. Is=20
>> > final
>> > release? Will the VS edition to be released to msdn=20
>> > version? Is there a new date for when this will be=20
>> > date I saw was for a week ago...).=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>.
>

> You are so funny and usefull.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Perhaps some of your Apple IIe software will do.
>>
>> "Ham" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>> news:(email address - cut out)...
>> > Many others have called it slow running XP SP2 on VPC2004. My own
>> > experience
>> > was it took 6 hours to boot! Yes it did boot (though it could not
>> > access
>> > internet).
>> > OK maybe you call 6 hours to boot "compatible" but you could just as
>> > well
>> > say that diesel is "compatible" with all cars.
>> >
>> > I'd like to be impressed that VPC 2004 works with unreleased versions
>> > of
>> > windows, I just can't figure out how to get hold of an unreleased
>> > version
>> > of
>> > windows.
>> >
>> > I personally welcome your generous offer that you are willing to lie
>> > and
>> > make up a release date. Yes please! Give us some hope! What's the date?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robert Moir" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ham wrote:
>> >> > I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older
>> >> > versions
>> >> > of Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over
>> >> > the last few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
>> >> > But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick
>> >> > to it?
>> >>
>> >> Define "Fixed". Virtual PC 2004 works with scores of operating systems
>> >> including all modern versions of Windows, including some which haven't
>> >> been
>> >> released yet (e.g. longhorn). I'm not sure how much more compatible
>> >> with
>> >> modern systems you think it should be. The idea that it only works
>> >> with
>> >> older operating systems is certainly one of the daftest things i've
>> >> seen
>> >> in
>> >> a while, sorry.
>> >>
>> >> Yes there is a performance issue with Windows XP SP2 which will be
>> >> fixed
>> >> by
>> >> Virtual PC 2004"s Service Pack 1, and yes that has been delayed. That
>> >> is
>> >> a
>> >> bug. A mistake. Not "not compatible". As for a firm date for the
>> >> release,
>> >> I
>> >> personally don't have one. I can lie and make one up if you wish.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP for servers & security
>> >> Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
>> >> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
>> >> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
>> >>
>> >> Kazaa - Software update services for your Viruses and Spyware.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

> I know that VPC is only intended to be compatible with older versions
> of Windows, and not the current one. I know that every few days over
> the last few months some MVP says it will be fixed in a few weeks...
> But, is anyone going to state a date for having VPC fixed and stick
> to it?

>"Robert Moir" wrote:
> "Real Soon Now."
>
>I'd also like to express my frustration with the amount of time it's taking
>to get this patch out.

> Many others have called it slow running XP SP2 on VPC2004. My own
> experience was it took 6 hours to boot! Yes it did boot (though it
> could not access internet).
> OK maybe you call 6 hours to boot "compatible" but you could just as
> well say that diesel is "compatible" with all cars.
> I'd like to be impressed that VPC 2004 works with unreleased versions
> of windows, I just can't figure out how to get hold of an unreleased
> version of windows.
> I personally welcome your generous offer that you are willing to lie
> and make up a release date. Yes please! Give us some hope! What's the
> date?

> "Robert Moir" wrote:
> "Real Soon Now."
>
> I'd also like to express my frustration with the amount of time it's
> taking to get this patch out.

>-----Original Message-----
>Perhaps some of your Apple IIe software will do.

> No no, you are thinking of a DIFFERENT virtual machine
> for that (however, the Apple II emulators are excellent
> and pretty rock solid, even for playing the old games!)
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Perhaps some of your Apple IIe software will do.
>

>-----Original Message-----
>I know. I was actually joking, however.
>
>"Xepol" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:35f201c4ae81$03a7cf80$(email address - cut out)...
>> No no, you are thinking of a DIFFERENT virtual machine
>> for that (however, the Apple II emulators are excellent
>> and pretty rock solid, even for playing the old games!)
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Perhaps some of your Apple IIe software will do.
>>
>
>
>.
>

> You know, I have to agree with the original poster. I
> can't believe that an 1800 year-old version of VPC could
> run current versions of Windows. ;)
>
> Scott
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I know. I was actually joking, however.
>>
>>"Xepol" <(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>>news:35f201c4ae81$03a7cf80$(email address - cut out)...
>>> No no, you are thinking of a DIFFERENT virtual machine
>>> for that (however, the Apple II emulators are excellent
>>> and pretty rock solid, even for playing the old games!)
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>Perhaps some of your Apple IIe software will do.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>

>> What a great idea for an ad: "World's oldest man still using Windows
>> thanks to VPC."
>
> Well, what about making a DOS (386) version of VPC? ;)
>
> Or, make a "bootable VPC console" by using eg XP Embedded.
>

>-----Original Message-----
>Great idea! We could call it Windows CE!
>
>"pml" <m1343(a)(email address - cut out)> wrote in message
>news:(email address - cut out)...
>>> What a great idea for an ad: "World's oldest man
>>> thanks to VPC."
>>
>> Well, what about making a DOS (386) version of VPC? ;)
>>
>> Or, make a "bootable VPC console" by using eg XP
>>
>
>
>.
>

> thanks to VPC."